From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32277 invoked by alias); 14 Jun 2005 06:39:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 32265 invoked by uid 22791); 14 Jun 2005 06:39:31 -0000 Received: from admin.voldemort.codesourcery.com (HELO mail.codesourcery.com) (65.74.133.9) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.30-dev) with ESMTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:39:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 22699 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2005 06:39:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.4?) (mitchell@127.0.0.1) by mail.codesourcery.com with SMTP; 14 Jun 2005 06:39:29 -0000 Message-ID: <42AE7B9A.8080200@codesourcery.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:39:00 -0000 From: Mark Mitchell User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Robert Ladd CC: gcc@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: A Suggestion for Release Testing References: <42A8A9B9.3080601@coyotegulch.com> In-Reply-To: <42A8A9B9.3080601@coyotegulch.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2005-06/txt/msg00461.txt.bz2 Scott Robert Ladd wrote: > Given the recent problems with the 4.0.0 release and major packages like > KDE and the kernel, has anyone considered testing releases by completely > compiling a Linux system? I'm all for more testing -- but I have a standard rant about it being easier to run tests than to fix problems. We actually have a wealth of known regressions -- some pretty serious -- in Bugzilla, and plenty more known bugs. Most come from real problems reported by real users on real code. So, it's not like we're running out of bugs to fix. Setting up automated regression testing is good, and hugely useful -- but what makes it *really* valuable is having someone who comes in every morning, looks at the output, and figures out who to blame, and, if necessary, fixes the problem herself. -- Mark Mitchell CodeSourcery, LLC mark@codesourcery.com (916) 791-8304