From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr1-x430.google.com (mail-wr1-x430.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::430]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EE863858D37; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 08:14:28 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 9EE863858D37 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gmail.com ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org 9EE863858D37 Authentication-Results: server2.sourceware.org; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::430 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1713428072; cv=none; b=wkQNMCOGoVQS+5qDhHodU9rnPzUtF5eGaYHa/lBvB3Qp9ydjsUv8wm6Nv8HU+pt3UpCYrjLLsVC31I2V30yTqodXeDa97QY9ktrfuWjpSG/V/MbPqLEKj/OGRRvaNWI82Lt3884naz2Mb+LemExyWZoPQavfyZ/urH12UEAuRTI= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1713428072; c=relaxed/simple; bh=2XvMf4LM/EftgmTWZJyFahcGpGlTOMXk6RnXJ1PlCLc=; h=DKIM-Signature:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date:Message-Id:To; b=QyQIDNJ+A1bQ83uehOo5BjAFmkfytohqnPE6jzQ6ofgYOhs5kEZVi02oF8Cj4T0KygbCg61Hs065Bw07p4BiEgaI/aYKXdga81Daz90gkZJ9nZUe5Pv2PQY3/YiJ/l5qVwA37HXHOBtIhP7EM1Zwfn6DB0tPQ+21F0EPcm7OqNk= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org Received: by mail-wr1-x430.google.com with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-34801b1bc4aso106777f8f.0; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 01:14:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1713428067; x=1714032867; darn=gcc.gnu.org; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=HcQDvVWgXytZPkh2R8ZWthblt7q2cjl+TrlF5ZM+V3g=; b=HVE+1o3AONLdO878qUoN8mRgtpaCuehvxa3tMSmT6/L8TKnP8uGEfhy1phh2w2pUmD F2HAXJnTpZ7EIHqGq7p11l1Q/qWdLZp05AuC/AW/AKCgPNJqnWNyk1+Sx7zHvR+8GhoD 4Q4A9BvxBYu8ayFsx/Yy/vod0XR/uut9hw1pky/Sps8l9vg1Z416SlLHPqFs6co+l0ys H1XX+PeTpG2NLWV5ks/LS1VFOc52FxYiqkH+B+Djp2skPYQ6IO4VpN9xa9RbQUsd3nJS vEphOeDWvqO1EHTvVZqXZ7jr0ACIADWS3PUwkYCY+OjyTtDR0uLpavH7OPw3OIkP2Lwy AmyQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1713428067; x=1714032867; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=HcQDvVWgXytZPkh2R8ZWthblt7q2cjl+TrlF5ZM+V3g=; b=m/125QX7TDvHcags8iG+k1+MUzaJuFg5Mno1a0MDQAo8YeZuD/rXJfli8rI05m3Hm4 zeh6VCkzsek6acUDvnVvDBWDeCvf2WjUXKycyKO5HaiLH4+Uvu+a1lilJo4OkLDeZ3BM 5+ePBd5Yb6y76L5ztyiiP8jlJ2Jw/D7RihwAT92M+sol7/ZJD3FSME/8K3D+xCvgPLXH Ero2G5L36EjC8SDovHgAeeR4DBv0I4pNBj0qYRxGiLZaMXgTAt5EdtSIWWepUnYFC/ws 9vxhD33Er+3k8S5wy4DJWdrY5WaVg3cML7pRq+RkdBumPcQYZ1vSoTEhPQihYfCKvoU2 hrfw== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCV/bCOvRTWEjHs6T3GQ/vAoWgJlN94uiPIJZpomipz/jQhb0YOHylDIhBPw9sK3viS4UL9Fb4OAR9JwlA+WFVJKrDMTCKxL1swy1Qi5qB7MgF6G3N0= X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzbbWsmkjMjju9eKpWpRueQgimwUfwBMdB27qyBMm9q7I1wp4H+ EDfIyW+bpCiLKEvKbOSIWSXlDjW8iPxUb9VXuVWAE9sgm0chxzoY X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFgSWk5WUA6kNmq9SmZFKUcj2iNTSSFjXW/jRFtOAL5V55R3IdcV/Jfw3w7k2m3rSFQ/VGGWQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:4f51:b0:418:73d1:94e9 with SMTP id m17-20020a05600c4f5100b0041873d194e9mr1308675wmq.4.1713428067114; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 01:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([176.164.173.53]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v12-20020a05600c470c00b00416a43d60e6sm5645419wmo.39.2024.04.18.01.14.26 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Apr 2024 01:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.500.171.1.1\)) Subject: Re: Updated Sourceware infrastructure plans From: FX Coudert In-Reply-To: <5bde614c-224f-4ec6-8450-7c0911938cf9@netcologne.de> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 10:14:15 +0200 Cc: Mark Wielaard , overseers@sourceware.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org, binutils@sourceware.org, gdb@sourceware.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org, "fortran@gcc.gnu.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4353C519-D023-45B0-A254-C7274B7CFC6F@gmail.com> References: <20240417232725.GC25080@gnu.wildebeest.org> <5bde614c-224f-4ec6-8450-7c0911938cf9@netcologne.de> To: Thomas Koenig X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.500.171.1.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: > I regenerate auto* files from time to time for libgfortran. = Regenerating > them has always been very fragile (using --enable-maintainer-mode), > and difficult to get right. I have never found them difficult to regenerate, but if you have only a = non maintainer build, it is a pain to have to make a new maintainer = build for a minor change. Moreover, our m4 code is particularly painful to use and unreadable. I = have been wondering for some time: should we switch to simpler Python = scripts? It would also mean that we would have fewer files in the = generated/ folder: right now, every time we add new combinations of = types, we have a combinatorial explosion of files. $ ls generated/sum_* generated/sum_c10.c generated/sum_c17.c generated/sum_c8.c = generated/sum_i16.c generated/sum_i4.c generated/sum_r10.c = generated/sum_r17.c generated/sum_r8.c generated/sum_c16.c generated/sum_c4.c generated/sum_i1.c = generated/sum_i2.c generated/sum_i8.c generated/sum_r16.c = generated/sum_r4.c We could imagine having a single file for all sum intrinsics. How do Fortran maintainers feel about that? FX=