From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bumble.maple.relay.mailchannels.net (bumble.maple.relay.mailchannels.net [23.83.214.25]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51E3B398843E for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2021 05:33:01 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 51E3B398843E Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=gotplt.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gotplt.org X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|siddhesh@gotplt.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07D91220BF; Wed, 9 Jun 2021 05:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a10.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-18-89.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.18.89]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 5B065122087; Wed, 9 Jun 2021 05:32:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|siddhesh@gotplt.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a10.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 100.96.18.89 (trex/6.3.1); Wed, 09 Jun 2021 05:32:59 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|siddhesh@gotplt.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Irritate-Sponge: 53d5203a6d2be0fa_1623216779593_4272244821 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1623216779593:1154783222 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1623216779593 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a10.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a10.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCAD7EFD0; Tue, 8 Jun 2021 22:32:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=gotplt.org; h=subject:to :cc:references:from:message-id:date:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=gotplt.org; bh=wVD6O6 O1U9I5NZ9++c99yLRveKg=; b=AVXHQyWOHc9duOBHNe8S0YcOP1mJxSggjg2RPF +KKvOKIxpm0D3bGL0BZFXxnatLqtFur3qUKFiF01JZ5Z0K7/VoXyQ+i0sueDoahK awCD7usMGV2k0qDywx0odE+DmlTTiea51zvCUrpf1yGvanRZwblSX1nZsxYwns14 YSkLc= Received: from [192.168.1.126] (unknown [1.186.101.110]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: siddhesh@gotplt.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a10.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 272517EFCE; Tue, 8 Jun 2021 22:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: GCC Mission Statement To: Valentino Giudice Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org References: <5ed046a2-a2f1-f5e3-7399-dbf31808b8ef@gotplt.org> X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a10 From: Siddhesh Poyarekar Message-ID: <45610ffd-5d7d-6b59-143f-bd1289948ed8@gotplt.org> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 11:02:52 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3029.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, KAM_SHORT, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_BARRACUDACENTRAL, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gcc@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2021 05:33:03 -0000 On 6/9/21 10:39 AM, Valentino Giudice wrote: > I was aware of that announcement, but it doesn't mention the mission > statement at all. > It appears that the decision in question was, at the time, in contrast > with the mission statement (rather than guided by it). > > If the Steering Committee updates the mission statement, it may appear > that the mission statement follows the decisions of the steering > committee (in place of the contrary). In that case, what would be the > purpose of a mission statement? > > The mission statement was also updated beyond simply making it > consistent with the change: in "Supporting the goals of the GNU > project, as defined by the FSF" the reference to the FSF was removed. Quite a few projects under the GNU project[1] have dissociated themselves from the FSF, so "as defined by the FSF" perhaps doesn't apply as consistently as it did before. That is my understanding anyway; maybe there's more context that others may be able to add. Siddhesh [1] https://gnu.tools/en/software/