From: Robert Dewar <dewar@adacore.com>
To: "\"Seongbae Park (¹Ú¼º¹è, ÚÓà÷ÛÆ)\"" <seongbae.park@gmail.com>
Cc: Ian Lance Taylor <iant@google.com>,
Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@redhat.com>,
Richard Guenther <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Designs for better debug info in GCC
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:42:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4733C22A.4060309@adacore.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ab3a61990711081809l77c9f591i6317a49e17454164@mail.gmail.com>
Seongbae Park (¹Ã¼º¹è, ÃÃà ÷ÃÃ) wrote:
> Most people
> fall in this camp
> and this is what gcc has implemented. This camp doesn't want to change the code
> so that they can get better debugging information.
This is definitely not the case. At least among our users, very few fall
into this camp. But in any case I think we all agree that there should
be a mode in which this is the emphasis.
>
> Of course, the real world is somewhere in between, but in practice,
> most people fall in the latter group
> (aka performance crowd).
You must live in a strange world, after all think about it, lots of
people find Java quite fine, even though it throws away a lot of
performance.
> Of course, another possible opinion would be to ignore the debuggability crowd
> on the ground that they are not important or big.
Actually I think big serious users with programs in the millions of
lines category are much more likely to be in the "debuggability" crowd.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-09 2:13 UTC|newest]
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[not found] ` <84fc9c000711050327x74845c78ya18a3329fcf9e4d2@mail.gmail.com>
2007-11-07 8:03 ` Designs for better debug info in GCC (was: Re: [vta] don't let debug insns get in the way of simple vect reduction) Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-07 16:37 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-11-07 21:43 ` Designs for better debug info in GCC Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-07 23:05 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-11-07 23:28 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-11-08 0:01 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-08 0:28 ` David Edelsohn
2007-11-08 5:01 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-08 5:15 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 18:44 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-23 2:20 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-11-23 2:30 ` Richard Guenther
2007-11-23 23:40 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-11-23 23:56 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-24 13:52 ` Robert Dewar
2007-11-08 5:44 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 18:37 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 20:51 ` Andrew Pinski
2007-11-09 1:11 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-09 11:28 ` Robert Dewar
2007-11-08 6:39 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 19:13 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 20:07 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-08 20:14 ` David Daney
2007-11-08 20:41 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-09 9:10 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-12 10:55 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-12 18:22 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-12 20:08 ` Joe Buck
2007-11-24 22:12 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-24 22:42 ` Richard Kenner
2007-11-12 22:43 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-11-24 1:44 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-13 10:50 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-24 4:05 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-13 15:46 ` Michael Matz
2007-11-23 23:56 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-26 18:19 ` Michael Matz
2007-11-27 7:31 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-27 18:33 ` Michael Matz
2007-11-27 20:37 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 10:11 ` Richard Guenther
2007-11-08 5:14 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 18:28 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 19:23 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-11-09 0:08 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-09 1:26 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-11-09 12:22 ` Robert Dewar
2007-11-12 12:59 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-12 18:05 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-12 18:09 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-24 4:31 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-26 6:10 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-12-05 14:21 ` Diego Novillo
2007-12-05 22:10 ` Joe Buck
2007-12-15 22:51 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-16 6:27 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-16 12:47 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-17 1:27 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-17 5:38 ` Joe Buck
2007-12-17 8:20 ` Geert Bosch
2007-12-18 1:24 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 2:02 ` Joe Buck
2007-12-18 4:40 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 7:45 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-18 7:56 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 13:29 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-18 22:15 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 6:16 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-18 8:09 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-17 18:33 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-17 17:59 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-17 18:02 ` Diego Novillo
2007-12-17 20:43 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-17 21:20 ` Diego Novillo
2007-12-18 1:01 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 1:14 ` Diego Novillo
2007-12-18 5:17 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 8:06 ` Kai Henningsen
2007-12-18 8:39 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 13:15 ` Diego Novillo
2007-12-18 15:06 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 16:22 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-18 16:28 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-18 16:31 ` Andrew Haley
2007-12-18 16:42 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-18 17:04 ` Andrew Haley
2007-12-18 17:12 ` Richard Kenner
2007-12-18 16:32 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-12-18 16:44 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-19 4:30 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-19 18:41 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-19 19:00 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-12-19 19:53 ` Janis Johnson
2007-12-19 21:17 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-20 6:10 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-20 16:52 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-20 21:38 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-21 1:54 ` Ian Lance Taylor
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2007-12-21 2:11 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-21 3:16 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-21 5:10 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-21 18:12 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-21 19:32 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-21 22:46 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-22 0:07 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-22 0:09 ` Andrew Pinski
2007-12-22 3:16 ` Andrew Pinski
2007-12-22 11:44 ` Chris Lattner
2007-12-22 21:27 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-23 17:40 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-12-22 7:38 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-22 13:33 ` Andrew Haley
2007-12-22 17:11 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-31 19:39 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-20 8:00 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-20 8:01 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-20 17:02 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-31 16:55 ` Richard Guenther
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2008-01-01 17:31 ` Richard Guenther
2007-12-18 23:19 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-19 6:07 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-19 6:18 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-19 16:01 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-19 16:29 ` Andrew MacLeod
2007-12-19 19:25 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-19 20:00 ` Andrew MacLeod
2007-12-19 20:40 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-19 20:00 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-19 21:11 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-20 5:16 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-20 16:44 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-20 20:42 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-19 20:03 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 23:31 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-19 4:35 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-19 16:12 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-19 19:13 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-19 20:11 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-12-31 14:45 ` Richard Guenther
2007-12-16 22:20 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-09 12:31 ` Seongbae Park (박성배, 朴成培)
2007-11-09 12:42 ` Robert Dewar [this message]
2007-11-07 17:25 ` Designs for better debug info in GCC (was: Re: [vta] don't let debug insns get in the way of simple vect reduction) Michael Matz
2007-11-07 19:03 ` Designs for better debug info in GCC Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 11:22 ` Michael Matz
2007-11-08 15:13 ` Robert Dewar
2007-11-08 16:11 ` H.J. Lu
2007-11-08 16:32 ` Michael Matz
2007-11-08 18:18 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-09 14:23 ` Michael Matz
2007-11-12 18:17 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-13 14:22 ` Michael Matz
2007-11-24 4:58 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-26 18:10 ` Michael Matz
2007-11-27 3:48 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 17:48 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-09 2:09 ` Robert Dewar
2007-11-12 17:52 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-09 2:13 ` Joe Buck
2007-11-09 18:40 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-11-09 19:02 ` Robert Dewar
2007-11-08 16:37 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-13 7:52 Steven Bosscher
2007-11-23 23:40 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-24 10:27 ` Steven Bosscher
2007-11-24 15:08 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-24 15:18 ` Richard Kenner
2007-11-24 20:21 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-24 20:48 ` Bernd Schmidt
2007-11-24 22:01 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-24 22:34 ` Richard Guenther
2007-11-25 1:21 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-25 2:36 ` Richard Guenther
2007-11-26 11:37 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-26 12:38 ` Richard Guenther
2007-11-26 18:10 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-25 0:20 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-24 21:24 ` Richard Kenner
2007-11-24 21:55 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-25 0:39 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-15 20:32 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-15 21:41 ` Robert Dewar
2007-11-24 16:07 ` Steven Bosscher
2007-11-24 20:11 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-24 20:46 ` Richard Guenther
2007-11-26 18:36 J.C. Pizarro
2007-11-26 18:55 ` J.C. Pizarro
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