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From: Mark Mitchell <mark@codesourcery.com>
To: Joe Buck <Joe.Buck@synopsys.COM>
Cc: "Jason Merrill" <jason@redhat.com>,
	"Ian Lance Taylor" <iant@google.com>,
	"Manuel López-Ibáñez" <lopezibanez@gmail.com>,
	"Ismail Dönmez" <ismail@pardus.org.tr>,
	gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Changes in C++ FE regarding pedwarns to be errors are harmful
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:55:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4787AD8B.9080006@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080111171203.GD31668@synopsys.com>

Joe Buck wrote:
> Mark Mitchell wrote:
>>> I don't see any a priori problem with changing to match the C front end.
>>> We could of course change some of the pedwarns into errors if we really
>>> think they ought to be errors.  Or, some of them could be ordinary
>>> warnings when not -pedantic, and pedwarns when -pedantic.

>> Sounds like we want a separate category of diagnostic with the current 
>> C++ pedwarn semantics so that we can change pedwarns themselves back to 
>> a warning by default.
> 
> Agreed.  Some have argued that the change makes sense because of
> consistency arguments.  I'm not impressed with that; the compiler
> is designed to be used, so the question is what most serves the users.

Exactly so.  I think that we have two kinds of pedwarns: those that are
pedantic in the sense we use for C (like, that there cannot be a naked
semicolon at the top-level of a file, or that "long long" is not in
C++98) and those that refer to semantically reasonable constructs that
we previously accepted, often because they were allowed by cfront or the
ARM.  With flag_permissive, we probably want the latter category to be
warnings at most; without flag_permissive, we want them to be errors.

This is a conceptually simple project, but it will take some work to
implement it, because someone will have to look at every pedwarn and
decide which category they are in.  Any volunteers?

-- 
Mark Mitchell
CodeSourcery
mark@codesourcery.com
(650) 331-3385 x713

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-11 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-08 21:27 Ismail Dönmez
2008-01-08 21:34 ` Joe Buck
2008-01-08 21:43   ` Richard Guenther
2008-01-08 21:44   ` Ismail Dönmez
2008-01-08 22:13     ` Andrew Pinski
2008-01-08 22:29     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2008-01-08 22:36       ` Ismail Dönmez
2008-01-08 22:45         ` Andrew Pinski
2008-01-09 14:10           ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-01-09 15:38             ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2008-01-09 15:57               ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-01-08 22:51         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2008-01-08 23:02           ` Ismail Dönmez
2008-01-09  1:23       ` Ismail Dönmez
2008-01-09  2:25         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2008-01-09 16:47           ` Ian Lance Taylor
2008-01-09 18:11             ` Benjamin Kosnik
2008-01-09 18:18               ` Andrew Pinski
2008-01-09 18:21                 ` Paolo Carlini
2008-01-09 19:42             ` Mark Mitchell
2008-01-11 17:06               ` Jason Merrill
2008-01-11 17:12                 ` Joe Buck
2008-01-11 17:55                   ` Mark Mitchell [this message]
2008-01-12 19:07                     ` Jonathan Wakely
2008-01-12 19:50                       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2008-01-13  3:28                         ` Jonathan Wakely
2008-01-13 15:30                           ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2008-01-13 22:56                             ` Jonathan Wakely
2008-01-14  2:04                               ` Jonathan Wakely
2008-01-14  2:19                                 ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2008-01-13 15:33         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2008-01-13 15:36           ` Ismail Dönmez
2008-01-13 16:09             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-13 16:10               ` Ismail Dönmez
2008-01-13 16:13                 ` Richard Guenther
2008-01-13 16:41                   ` Ismail Dönmez
2008-01-13 23:08                     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2008-01-14 11:03                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-01-14 16:23                   ` Ismail Dönmez
2008-01-13 16:43             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2008-01-13 16:45               ` Ismail Dönmez
2008-01-13 19:17                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis

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