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From: Basile STARYNKEVITCH <basile@starynkevitch.net>
To: "Joseph S. Myers" <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <bonzini@gnu.org>,
	Diego Novillo <dnovillo@google.com>,
	  Olatunji Ruwase <tjruwase@google.com>,
	 gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [plugin] Directory for plugins distributed with gcc
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:16:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A5E4741.3080106@starynkevitch.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0907152045210.25214@digraph.polyomino.org.uk>

Joseph S. Myers wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>
>   
>> On 07/15/2009 09:36 PM, Joseph S. Myers wrote:
>>     
>>> Before moving something out to a plugin (if we think that is technically
>>> appropriate for the particular code in question) we should have a way to
>>> build code, set up to be built as a plugin, into the compiler so that the
>>> -fplugin options find the built-in code, in a way that does not depend on
>>> plugins otherwise being supported on the host system; maybe somewhere in
>>> the source tree to put sources for plugins that get built into the
>>> compiler, or a configure option to point to such sources.
>
> Unless libltdl can be statically linked in, using it is a bad idea for 
> other reasons as previously discussed at length.
>
>   
I am aware of these reasons (but I am not sure to agree with them; 
however, that is not my point here) against libltdl.

A possible trick would be to decide a convention, such as a plugin whose 
name starts with a dot, or contains a slash, is in fact a "builtin" 
plugin, always available (and its code is part of GCC core). Actually, 
there is a reason to do so, if some GCC code wants to use some plugin 
facility. For instance, the MELT branch, even when compiled as a branch 
(i.e. without being compiled as a plugin), does call register_callback 
internally. And currently, code can call register_callback without any 
plugin being actually loaded in. There is no check on the plugin name 
argument to register_callback.
Such a convention (on builtin plugins) does not need to be implemented 
by code. It could be just agreed upon and suitably documented.

A side effect of this would be perhaps to limit extra GCC -f... program 
flags, since we could make them as plugin flags to builtin plugins.


Regards.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-15 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fe7fd8170907151130j35ac3348kb447e7e1d273d9af@mail.gmail.com>
2009-07-15 18:43 ` Diego Novillo
2009-07-15 18:51   ` Olatunji Ruwase
2009-07-15 19:14     ` Diego Novillo
2009-07-15 19:36       ` Joseph S. Myers
2009-07-15 20:43         ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-07-15 20:53           ` Joseph S. Myers
2009-07-15 21:16             ` Basile STARYNKEVITCH [this message]
2009-07-15 21:43             ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-07-16 13:09       ` Rafael Espindola

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