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From: Joel Sherrill <joel.sherrill@oarcorp.com>
To: "Manuel López-Ibáñez" <lopezibanez@gmail.com>
Cc: "Дмитрий Дьяченко" <dimhen@gmail.com>,
	"Laurent GUERBY" <laurent@guerby.net>,
	"gcc Mailing List" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Why not contribute? (to GCC)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:45:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BD31BF5.5000108@oarcorp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <t2p6c33472e1004240900kf91173e3x6d99dfdea832a661@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Taking a slightly different tack on this.  One of the things
we at RTEMS have taken away from Google Summer of Code
is that your project has to be approachable to new users
from your target audiences.  You want to minimize the
barrier to entry for each type of users. For us, this
was experienced embedded developers, students with
no cross development experience, students with no
Linux computer, instructors wanting to use RTEMS in
a class, etc.

I think many of the ideas which have been suggested
are great and needed.  Can we identify different types
of users and what might present them hurdles?  Then
we can identify what would be required to lower those
hurdles.

Then work to give each type of user a roadmap, howto,
getting started, resources, etc. on the wiki.

One thing I like to do periodically with RTEMS is
only answer questions with URLs.  This means that
there was an answer in our knowledge base.  If new
info has to be added, it is a hint.  If the user couldn't
find it, it indicates a problem in the way the information
is presented. This is often just due to language barriers
and not thinking like someone unfamiliar to the project.

This is all under the general umbrella of "making
your project approachable".

--joel



  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-24 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 231+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-23 18:56 Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 19:04 ` Paolo Carlini
2010-04-23 19:24   ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-23 19:58     ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 20:43       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 21:49         ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 22:18           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-23 23:20             ` Michael Witten
2010-04-25 15:34     ` Denys Vlasenko
2010-04-25 16:34       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  5:06         ` Olivier Galibert
2010-04-26  5:16           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26 11:41             ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-04-27  2:03               ` Russ Allbery
2010-04-27  2:58                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27 14:57                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-04-23 19:34 ` Дмитрий Дьяченко
2010-04-23 19:45   ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 19:53     ` Joel Sherrill
2010-04-24 16:00       ` Дмитрий Дьяченко
2010-04-24 16:02         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 16:45           ` Joel Sherrill [this message]
2010-04-24 18:07         ` Laurent GUERBY
2010-04-23 19:40 ` David Daney
2010-04-25 19:26   ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-23 19:48 ` Marc Glisse
2010-04-23 20:06   ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 21:36   ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-23 21:45     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24  0:05       ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-24  0:37         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2010-04-24  0:47           ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-24  0:48         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-24  1:37           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 20:26           ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-25 21:46             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 22:16               ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-25 22:48                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  0:28                   ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-26  0:30                     ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  0:37                     ` Jack Howarth
2010-04-26  1:45                       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  2:06                       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-26  2:32                     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-26  2:55                       ` Michael Witten
2010-04-26  3:02                         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  3:08                         ` Dave Korn
2010-04-26  3:23                     ` Dave Korn
2010-04-26  3:25                       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  3:25                         ` Dave Korn
2010-04-26  9:32                           ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-26 11:48                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-04-27  4:02                               ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-27  7:57                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-04-26 12:20                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26 12:36                               ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-26 15:11                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-27  3:21                                 ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-27  3:55                                   ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  3:32                       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  4:02                         ` Dave Korn
2010-04-26  4:13                           ` Russ Allbery
2010-04-26  4:32                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  4:36                               ` Dave Korn
2010-04-26  4:22                           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  9:23                       ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-24  1:39         ` Dave Korn
2010-04-23 22:35     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-25 19:37       ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-25 21:35         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  4:32         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-26  4:54           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  9:41           ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-26 17:14             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2010-04-26 17:19             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-26 15:11         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-23 22:18   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-23 22:53     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24  0:04       ` Joe Buck
2010-04-24  0:21         ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-24  1:00           ` Joe Buck
2010-04-24  0:08       ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-24  0:35         ` Joe Buck
2010-04-24  0:41           ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-24  1:32             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-24  1:39               ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24  2:13                 ` Dave Korn
2010-04-24  5:14                 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-24  6:02                   ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24  1:35             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 19:54             ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-25 21:42               ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24 10:26         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 10:39           ` Eric Botcazou
2010-04-24 13:02           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25  4:20         ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-25  8:40       ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-25 10:56         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-25 14:59           ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-25 15:04             ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-25 15:20               ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-25 15:21                 ` H.J. Lu
2010-04-25 21:37                   ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-25 16:30                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 16:54                   ` Michael Witten
2010-04-25 17:04                     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-25 17:09                       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 17:05                     ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 17:05                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-25 17:08                     ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-26  9:07                       ` Andrew Haley
2010-04-25 19:19                   ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-25 21:24                     ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  5:14                       ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-26  7:17                         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26 11:59                         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-26 15:12                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-26 16:59                       ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-26 17:26                         ` Olivier Galibert
2010-04-26 18:04                         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27  2:16                           ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-27  3:02                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27 20:43                             ` Michael Witten
2010-04-27  5:10                           ` Olivier Galibert
2010-04-27 12:27                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26 19:28                         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-26 20:53                           ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-26 21:06                             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-26 21:42                               ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-26 22:18                               ` Toon Moene
2010-04-27  2:56                           ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-27  3:04                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27  4:54                             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-25 17:16                 ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-25 17:35                   ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 17:58                     ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-25 21:17                       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 16:26             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 18:04             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-25 12:43         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-23 20:03 ` HyperQuantum
2010-04-23 20:14   ` HyperQuantum
2010-04-23 20:19     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 20:24     ` Paweł Sikora
2010-04-23 20:42       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 20:51         ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 21:05           ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 22:01             ` Michael Witten
2010-04-24  9:19               ` Jonathan Wakely
2010-04-24 10:51         ` Paweł Sikora
2010-04-24 11:10           ` Andi Hellmund
2010-04-24 12:12             ` Joseph S. Myers
2010-04-24 13:20               ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24 13:53           ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 14:14             ` Toon Moene
2010-04-24  2:09     ` Tim Prince
2010-04-24  5:08       ` Dave Korn
2010-04-23 20:32   ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 20:22 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 20:59 ` Florian Weimer
2010-04-23 22:06 ` Russ Allbery
2010-04-24  8:53 ` Michael Veksler
2010-04-24 19:43 ` Thomas Neumann
2010-04-24 20:03   ` Joel Sherrill
2010-04-24 20:28     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 20:37       ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-24 20:37         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 20:43           ` Richard Guenther
2010-04-24 20:39         ` Richard Guenther
2010-04-24 20:45           ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 21:40           ` Andi Hellmund
2010-04-24 22:19             ` Joel Sherrill
2010-04-25 12:54               ` Eric Botcazou
2010-04-25 13:01                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 13:10                   ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-25 14:55                     ` Ralf Wildenhues
2010-04-25 17:36                       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-25 20:41                 ` Richard Guenther
2010-04-24 20:46   ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-05-04  7:13   ` Theodore Papadopoulo
2010-05-04 20:51     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 21:03 ` Martin Guy
2010-04-24 21:27   ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 12:35 Ross Ridge
2010-04-24 12:56 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-24 13:29   ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24 14:23     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 19:48     ` Florian Weimer
2010-04-24 20:23       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 15:44   ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-04-25 15:54     ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-25 16:00       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-25 16:00       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-25 16:48         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 16:18     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-26 16:50       ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-04-26 16:54         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-26 17:03           ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-04-26 19:53             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-26 20:03               ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-26 20:04                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27 19:52                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-27 19:56                     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-27 21:05                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-27 21:20                         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-27 21:33                           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-27 21:40                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27 22:33                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-27 22:33                             ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-27 22:53                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-29  8:50                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-04-26 17:04         ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-26 17:15           ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-26 18:00           ` Olivier Galibert
2010-04-25 16:35     ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24 14:21 ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 14:31   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2010-04-24 14:34     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 14:39   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-24 14:40     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 14:45       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 19:36 ` Leif Ekblad
2010-04-24 19:47   ` Joel Sherrill
2010-04-25 11:07     ` Leif Ekblad
2010-04-25 11:25       ` Ralf Wildenhues
2010-04-24 12:51 Matthew J Fletcher
2010-04-26  9:46 Ross Ridge
2010-04-26 12:32 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26 15:11   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-26 15:11 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-26 16:09 Ross Ridge

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