From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31543 invoked by alias); 29 Jul 2010 09:23:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 31534 invoked by uid 22791); 29 Jul 2010 09:23:34 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from moene.org (HELO moene.org) (82.95.66.103) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:23:30 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by moene.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OePKQ-0001nE-TA; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:23:02 +0200 Message-ID: <4C514876.9040100@moene.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:23:00 -0000 From: Toon Moene User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100329) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Lance Taylor CC: ams@gnu.org, Steven Bosscher , mark@codesourcery.com, richard.guenther@gmail.com, Joe.Buck@synopsys.com, dewar@adacore.com, bkoz@redhat.com, gcc@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: GFDL/GPL issues References: <4BFC6EF0.4090908@codesourcery.com> <20100714172307.3687a9c4@shotwell> <4C48D2C4.5000103@codesourcery.com> <4C48D60E.3000604@codesourcery.com> <20100726175013.20b12428@shotwell> <4C4E35B8.6010301@codesourcery.com> <4C4E37FC.1060208@adacore.com> <4C4F010C.5060401@codesourcery.com> <20100727180738.GU17485@synopsys.com> <4C4F20E8.5050206@codesourcery.com> <4C509E54.6090401@codesourcery.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org X-SW-Source: 2010-07/txt/msg00416.txt.bz2 Ian Lance Taylor wrote: > "Alfred M. Szmidt" writes: > >> Please move such unconstructive arguments elsewhere. > > Wait. Steven's comment was on the snarky side, but coming from a > long-time gcc contributor I don't think it was over the line or even > near it. I think he was expressing a perfectly valid point of view > considering the constraints that the FSF places on gcc developers. For > certain aspects of gcc, generating documentation from code makes all > kinds of sense. The fact that the FSF is preventing us from doing that > is a real problem. It's not a critical problem, but it's one in a line > of real problems. Especially if he is right about more projects having this problem. He wrote: "GCC is not the only project with this problem." If that is true, and if those projects are also under the umbrella of the FSF, we (those projects together) might take the step to "escalate" this issue to the board of the FSF. Kind regards, -- Toon Moene - e-mail: toon@moene.org - phone: +31 346 214290 Saturnushof 14, 3738 XG Maartensdijk, The Netherlands At home: http://moene.org/~toon/; weather: http://moene.org/~hirlam/ Progress of GNU Fortran: http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.5/changes.html#Fortran