From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2120 invoked by alias); 12 Apr 2012 20:55:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 2109 invoked by uid 22791); 12 Apr 2012 20:55:42 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,KHOP_RCVD_TRUST,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f179.google.com) (209.85.212.179) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:55:30 +0000 Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so2079473wib.8 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.20.175 with SMTP id o15mr18961053wie.6.1334264129313; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.99] (cpc3-cmbg8-0-0-cust629.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com. [82.6.102.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k6sm54882481wie.9.2012.04.12.13.55.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F874161.7060406@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:55:00 -0000 From: Dave Korn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabriel Dos Reis CC: Jonathan Wakely , Robert Dewar , gcc@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: RFC: -Wall by default References: <4F831FFB.9050407@adacore.com> <20120411085055.GD12165@xvii.vinc17.org> <4F86AD2F.4010506@gmail.com> <4F86E8FE.20407@adacore.com> <4F86EACE.9070301@gmail.com> <4F86EE3F.3050804@gmail.com> <4F86F1C9.3070505@adacore.com> <4F86F5B0.2020207@adacore.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org X-SW-Source: 2012-04/txt/msg00529.txt.bz2 On 12/04/2012 17:03, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > There is > little ambiguity left by -Wreally-all-of-them-damn-it :-) Actually, no, as anyone could tell you who before they discovered version control used to have lots of files lying around called "foo.final.c", "foo.final.reallyfinal.c", "foo.final.updated.reallyfinalthistime.c", and so on; in other words, I think that after a few years have passed, we would find that we've been persuaded to add -Wreally-really-all-of-them-damn-it, -Wreally-really-all-no-actually-all-including-everything, and -Wreally-really-all-of-them-damn-it-no-i-really-did-mean-all-of-them-even-including-the-really-unexpected-ones. There's nothing more ambiguous than saying that something is final in a world where perfection is never achieved. That's why software has monotonically increasing version numbers, instead of just one that means "this is done now". cheers, DaveK