From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe16:19:96:114:154:171]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13B4A3858031 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 23:52:31 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 13B4A3858031 Received: from resomta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.229]) by resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id XBAylqj2vfSZqXBmflahRw; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 23:52:29 +0000 Received: from pkoning.akdesign.com ([73.60.223.101]) by resomta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPSA id XBmblFojDRqFzXBmdlPoq6; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 23:52:28 +0000 X-Xfinity-VAAS: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrudelgedgvdeiucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuvehomhgtrghsthdqtfgvshhipdfqfgfvpdfpqffurfetoffkrfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurheptggguffhjgffgffkfhfvofesthhqmhdthhdtvdenucfhrhhomheprfgruhhlucfmohhnihhnghcuoehprghulhhkohhnihhnghestghomhgtrghsthdrnhgvtheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepvddtveejueehhfeivdetffejueffheekgfduuedtvefffeekieejleefveeuhfegnecukfhppeejfedriedtrddvvdefrddutddunecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghlohepphhkohhnihhnghdrrghkuggvshhighhnrdgtohhmpdhinhgvthepjeefrdeitddrvddvfedruddtuddpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehprghulhhkohhnihhnghestghomhgtrghsthdrnhgvthdprhgtphhtthhopehfrhhoshhkuhesfhhrohhskhhurdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepughimhgvtghhsehgmhigrdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepghgttgesghgttgdrghhnuhdrohhrgh X-Xfinity-VMeta: sc=-100.00;st=legit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.17\)) Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers From: Paul Koning In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 19:52:25 -0400 Cc: Christopher Dimech , GCC Development Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <568DD01C-74A0-47AA-9D79-CEF7A9388491@comcast.net> References: <20210414131843.GA4138043@thyrsus.com> <20210414142310.98E0833DD0@vlsi1.gnat.com> <20210414152112.GD4138043@thyrsus.com> <20210415134907.GA51340@thyrsus.com> <96db05d78cb1f829d0b3ce3026ac15a335fffd41.camel@redhat.com> <3e0b8d933eef3eb7f12e86bf6bc92dec6965065d.camel@silogroup.org> To: Frosku X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.17) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, FREEMAIL_FROM, JMQ_SPF_NEUTRAL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gcc@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 23:52:32 -0000 > On Apr 15, 2021, at 7:44 PM, Frosku wrote: >=20 > On Fri Apr 16, 2021 at 12:36 AM BST, Christopher Dimech wrote: >>=20 >> The commercial use of free software is our hope, not our fear. When >> people >> at IBM began to come to free software, wanting to recommend it and = use >> it, >> and maybe distribute it themselves or encourage other people to >> distribute >> it for them, we did not criticise them for not being non-profit = virtuous >> enough, or said "we are suspicious of you", let alone threatening = them. >>=20 >=20 > There is a colossal difference between commercial use and commercial > entities buying control of projects currently governed by entities > which are answerable to the grassroots (GNU) and then toppling that > governance structure in favor of one which is only answerable to > boardrooms in Silicon Valley and Seattle WA. There are, or would be if that were a real issue. It's not something = that is feasible with GPL licensed code, whether the copyright is held = by the FSF as it is for GCC, or by all the authors as for Linux. paul