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From: Mike Stump <mrs@apple.com>
To: Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@redhat.com>
Cc: Geoff Keating <geoffk@apple.com>,
	Eric Botcazou <ebotcazou@libertysurf.fr>,
	Scott Robert Ladd <coyote@coyotegulch.com>,
	Robert Dewar <dewar@gnat.com>,
	gcc@gcc.gnu.org, Nick Burrett <nick@dsvr.net>,
	Gabriel Dos Reis <gdr@integrable-solutions.net>,
	Marc Espie <espie@quatramaran.ens.fr>
Subject: Re: gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 03:04:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57A7F01C-4AF5-11D8-B42C-003065A77310@apple.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <or8yk3z6dw.fsf@livre.redhat.lsd.ic.unicamp.br>

On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 06:43 PM, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> I know Apple has put a lot of effort on speeding up the compiler, and
> I can only find it sad that such efforts are fundamentally
> incompatible with the relatively-scalable approach to speeding builds
> up, namely, the use of compiler farms with distcc, Mosix or similar
> techniques.

?  Call me confused.  Give me a Mosix cluster and the compile server, 
and I'll show you fast compilation...  What parts of it do you think 
are incompatible?  We do distcc and PCH today, perfectly compatible as 
well.  We don't do ccache and PCH, but I don't see why that is any 
harder than simple to get working.

I'm wanna try my hand at ccache built into the compile server on a 64 
bit machine and see how well it works in practice...  :-)  Certainly I 
see 100x+ speedups now with it with small testcases.

PCH and the compile server are playing together nicer than I'd imagine.

Anyone have a Mosix cluster they want to donate some time on?  :-)

Are you by chance referring to the fact that we don't do fine gained db 
in the compiler's data structures and share those across compile 
servers?  If so, I'm yet to be convinced that that would be wise to do. 
  Maybe.  If it is, it isn't fundamentally incompatible, in fact, it is 
a possibly planned development line, it just won't be in the first 
version checked into mainline.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-20  3:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 185+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-10  0:11 Geoffrey Keating
2004-01-10  0:25 ` Phil Edwards
2004-01-10  0:47   ` Geoffrey Keating
2004-01-10 15:41     ` Phil Edwards
2004-01-12 18:47       ` Geoffrey Keating
2004-01-12 19:22         ` Mark Mitchell
2004-01-12 23:42           ` Geoff Keating
2004-01-12 23:48             ` Zack Weinberg
2004-01-12 23:49             ` Mark Mitchell
2004-01-13  0:06               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-01-13  0:16                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-01-13  0:22                   ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-13 19:48                     ` Gerald Pfeifer
2004-01-13  0:28                 ` Joe Buck
2004-01-13  0:46                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-01-13  1:13                 ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-13  0:11               ` Ziemowit Laski
2004-01-13  0:15                 ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-13  0:23                   ` Ziemowit Laski
2004-01-13  0:37                     ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-13  0:45                       ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-13  0:55                         ` Ziemowit Laski
2004-01-13  0:54                       ` Ziemowit Laski
2004-01-13  1:01                         ` Mark Mitchell
2004-01-13  1:16                           ` Ziemowit Laski
2004-01-13  1:26                             ` Mark Mitchell
2004-01-13  1:33                               ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-13  1:19                         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-13  0:47                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-01-13  0:59                       ` Altivec (Re: gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal) Matt Austern
2004-01-13  0:16                 ` gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal Mark Mitchell
2004-01-13  0:54                   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-13 21:31               ` Geoff Keating
2004-01-13 22:41                 ` David Edelsohn
2004-01-13 23:13                   ` Daniel Berlin
2004-01-13 23:24                     ` Paul Koning
2004-01-14  0:01                       ` Geoff Keating
2004-01-14  0:26                         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-14  8:35                         ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-01-14 14:58                         ` Paul Koning
2004-01-13 23:29                     ` Mike Stump
2004-01-14  0:47                       ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-14  1:05                         ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-14  1:36                       ` Joe Buck
2004-01-14 19:47                         ` Mike Stump
2004-01-13 23:51                 ` Eric Christopher
2004-01-13 23:53                   ` Daniel Berlin
2004-01-14  6:13                 ` Mark Mitchell
2004-01-14  8:39                   ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-01-14  8:48                   ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-14 20:59                     ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-01-14 21:02                       ` Andrew Haley
2004-01-19  1:31                 ` Marc Espie
2004-01-19  1:51                   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-19 10:40                     ` Nick Burrett
2004-01-19 13:55                       ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 15:49                         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-19 16:09                           ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-19 16:24                             ` Marc Espie
2004-01-19 17:07                               ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-19 17:54                               ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 18:03                                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-19 17:41                             ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 18:08                               ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-19 18:09                               ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-19 18:34                                 ` Marc Espie
2004-01-19 19:06                                 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 20:22                                   ` Eric Botcazou
2004-01-19 20:38                                     ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 21:09                                       ` Eric Botcazou
2004-01-19 21:18                                         ` Eric Christopher
2004-01-19 21:46                                           ` Eric Botcazou
2004-01-19 22:09                                             ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-01-19 22:29                                               ` Marc Espie
2004-01-19 23:04                                                 ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-01-20  3:45                                                 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-20  7:46                                                   ` Marc Espie
2004-01-20 23:22                                                     ` Gerald Pfeifer
2004-01-20 23:28                                                       ` Zack Winkles
2004-01-19 23:53                                             ` Mark Hahn
2004-01-20  0:17                                               ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-20 14:27                                                 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-22 14:50                                                 ` Geoffrey Furnish
2004-01-20  6:27                                               ` gcc compilation speed Matt Austern
2004-01-20  7:23                                                 ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-20  7:40                                                   ` Karel Gardas
2004-01-20  8:25                                               ` gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal Karel Gardas
2004-01-20 12:07                                                 ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-01-20 14:41                                                   ` Karel Gardas
2004-01-20 14:52                                                     ` Daniel Berlin
2004-01-20 14:55                                                       ` Karel Gardas
2004-01-20 15:16                                                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-01-20 15:21                                                       ` Karel Gardas
2004-01-20 16:16                                                   ` Comparison of compilation speed of GCC 3.4.0 040114, ICC 8.0 and COMO 4.3.3 on MICO ORB core sources (C++) Karel Gardas
2004-01-20 15:08                                               ` gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal Paul Koning
2004-01-19 21:20                                         ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-20  2:05                                       ` Mike Stump
2004-01-20 14:25                                         ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-19 21:34                                     ` Geoff Keating
2004-01-19 22:03                                       ` Eric Botcazou
2004-01-19 22:22                                         ` Geoff Keating
2004-01-19 22:38                                           ` Eric Botcazou
2004-01-20  3:53                                             ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-20  4:52                                               ` Eric Botcazou
2004-01-20  2:44                                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-01-20  3:04                                             ` Mike Stump [this message]
2004-01-20 19:03                                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-01-20 20:41                                                 ` Mike Stump
2004-01-20 22:06                                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-01-20 22:59                                                     ` Mike Stump
2004-01-20 18:52                                             ` Geoffrey Keating
2004-01-20 22:12                                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-01-20 22:30                                                 ` Geoffrey Keating
2004-01-21  0:02                                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-01-21 12:12                                                   ` Richard Earnshaw
2004-01-22  6:37                                                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2004-01-22 10:38                                                       ` Richard Earnshaw
2004-01-22  6:27                                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2004-01-26 18:55                                             ` compile speed [was: gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal] Per Bothner
2004-01-26 19:34                                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-01-20  0:01                                     ` GCC's hardware requirements - Where is the freedom? [was: " Matthias Benkmann
2004-01-20  3:13                                       ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-20  3:17                                         ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-20  9:23                                           ` Bernd Jendrissek
2004-01-20 21:38                                             ` Mike Stump
2004-01-20 22:50                                             ` Toon Moene
2004-01-20  8:12                                       ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-01-20  9:09                                         ` Eric Botcazou
2004-01-19 17:27                           ` gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 16:26                       ` Per Bothner
2004-01-20  2:14                       ` Mike Stump
2004-01-20  3:49                       ` Zack Weinberg
2004-01-20 10:08                         ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-20 15:13                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-01-20 18:04                           ` Zack Weinberg
2004-01-20 18:48                             ` Geoffrey Keating
2004-01-20 19:01                               ` Zack Weinberg
2004-01-20 22:04                                 ` Geoff Keating
2004-01-21  2:23                                   ` Zack Weinberg
2004-01-22  6:27                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2004-01-19 20:51                     ` Dale Johannesen
2004-01-19 23:01                       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-19  3:42                   ` Marc Espie
2004-01-19  3:47                     ` Robert McNulty Junior
2004-01-19  3:49                     ` David Edelsohn
2004-01-19 13:28                       ` Marc Espie
2004-01-19 13:35                         ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-19 19:10                           ` Marc Espie
2004-01-19 19:15                             ` Marc Espie
2004-01-19 20:49                               ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-19 19:39                             ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-19 13:35                         ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-19 13:39                         ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-19 17:58                         ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-19  3:59                     ` Zack Weinberg
2004-01-19  8:19                     ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-19 11:29                     ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-19 13:18                       ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-19 14:13                       ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 14:18                         ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-19 14:48                           ` Vladimir Makarov
2004-01-19 17:04                             ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-20  2:46                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-01-19  4:37                   ` Giovanni Bajo
2004-01-19  4:46                     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-19  7:04                       ` Eric Botcazou
2004-01-19  7:10                         ` Andreas Jaeger
2004-01-19  8:12                       ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-19  8:38                         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-19  8:45                           ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-19  9:35                             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-12 22:40       ` Mike Stump
2004-01-13 23:31 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2004-01-19 16:24 Paul Koning
2004-01-19 17:46 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 17:51   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-19 18:12     ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-19 18:20       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-19 18:29       ` Giovanni Bajo
2004-01-19 18:22     ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 18:30   ` Paul Koning
2004-01-20 10:46     ` Russ Allbery
2004-01-20  3:00 D. Starner
2004-01-20  3:14 ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-20  5:19 D. Starner

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