From: Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Matheus Afonso Martins Moreira via Gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
Matheus Afonso Martins Moreira <matheus.a.m.moreira@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Linux system call builtins
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2024 14:44:41 +0300 (MSK) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5a5b1c2c-6feb-3bf5-cf08-aa93a1b181b8@ispras.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87plv0w10k.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>
On Mon, 8 Apr 2024, Florian Weimer via Gcc wrote:
> * Matheus Afonso Martins Moreira via Gcc:
>
> > + It's stable
> >
> > This is one of the things which makes Linux unique
> > in the operating system landscape: applications
> > can target the kernel directly. Unlike in virtually
> > every other operating system out there, the Linux kernel
> > to user space binary interface is documented[2] as stable.
> > Breaking it is considered a regression in the kernel.
> > Therefore it makes sense for a compiler to target it.
> > The same is not true for any other operating system.
>
> There is quite a bit of variance in how the kernel is entered. On
> x86-64, one once popular mechanism is longer present in widely-used
> kernels.
I assume you're implicitly referencing the vsyscall mechanism, but on
amd64 it's not useful to *enter the kernel*, right? It was useful for
obtaining the result of certain syscalls without actually entering
the kernel, like with vdso.
Unlike i386, where the vdso (as well as vsyscall I guess) provides
the __kernel_vsyscall entrypoint, which provides whichever of
{ int 0x80, sysenter, syscall } methods is available and fastest.
Or am I missing something?
Alexander
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-08 11:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-08 9:19 Matheus Afonso Martins Moreira
2024-04-08 9:58 ` Jonathan Wakely
2024-04-08 11:59 ` Matheus Afonso Martins Moreira
2024-04-08 14:00 ` Jonathan Wakely
2024-04-08 11:24 ` Florian Weimer
2024-04-08 11:44 ` Alexander Monakov [this message]
2024-04-08 11:50 ` Florian Weimer
2024-04-08 13:01 ` Alexander Monakov
2024-04-08 13:37 ` Matheus Afonso Martins Moreira
2024-04-08 18:18 ` Paul Iannetta
2024-04-08 18:26 ` Andrew Pinski
2024-04-08 20:01 ` Paul Iannetta
2024-04-08 20:20 ` Paul Koning
2024-04-10 1:48 ` Matheus Afonso Martins Moreira
2024-04-10 13:15 ` Paul Koning
2024-04-10 14:10 ` Matheus Afonso Martins Moreira
2024-04-10 1:26 ` Matheus Afonso Martins Moreira
2024-04-08 20:24 ` Paul Floyd
2024-04-10 2:19 ` Matheus Afonso Martins Moreira
2024-04-09 11:45 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-04-10 2:59 ` Matheus Afonso Martins Moreira
2024-04-10 11:04 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-04-10 14:00 ` Matheus Afonso Martins Moreira
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