From: Paul Koning <paulkoning@comcast.net>
To: Nathan Sidwell <nathan@acm.org>
Cc: Martin Jambor <mjambor@suse.cz>, GCC Development <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 14:32:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <600F49EC-F59B-41EF-B6F5-E030A6B629C0@comcast.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ab9bb7d6-e320-d3be-6aa7-223d715c4d88@acm.org>
> On Apr 14, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Nathan Sidwell <nathan@acm.org> wrote:
>
> On 4/14/21 12:52 PM, Martin Jambor wrote:
>> Hi Nathan,
>> On Wed, Apr 14 2021, Nathan Sidwell wrote:
>>> Do we have a policy about removing list subscribers that send abusive or
>>> other toxic emails? do we have a code of conduct? Searching the wiki
>>> or website finds nothing. The mission statement mentions nothing.
>> I think that (most?) people have already figured out that messages from
>> unfamiliar senders on certain topics have to be ignored. It is much
>> easier than any moderation, which would be ugly work (someone would have
>> to read the often horrible stuff).
>> I think that you only "associate" with trolls if you feed them. I have
>> recently made that mistake on this list once and will not repeat it.
>
> I disagree. Their emails pollute the list. Just as I wouldn't like to go to a bar where there are noisy jerks in a corner, I don't like to frequent an ML where there are. Bouncers exist in physical space, is it so hard to electronically bounce jerks? Is it so hard to explicitly say 'be a jerk and be thrown out'?
Who decides?
Bouncers enforce the policy of the owner of the joint. In any meetingplace that has an owner who has authority over who enters, it's possible to establish rules controlling ejection and bouncers to do the ejecting.
Our place does not have a single owner who has the authority to decide unilaterally "you're not wanted, leave". What mechanism would you use instead? Ostracism, in the classic Greek sense of a secret ballot to decide for or against banishment?
paul
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2021-04-14 12:27 Nathan Sidwell
2021-04-14 13:18 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-14 13:28 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-04-14 13:38 ` Frosku
2021-04-14 13:45 ` Frosku
2021-04-14 14:49 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-14 14:57 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-14 15:10 ` Frosku
2021-04-14 15:08 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-04-14 15:25 ` Didier Kryn
2021-04-14 17:09 ` Jeff Law
2021-04-14 18:26 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 14:08 ` Nathan Sidwell
2021-04-14 15:06 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-14 16:06 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 16:08 ` Jeff Law
2021-04-14 20:39 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-14 20:49 ` Christopher Jefferson
2021-04-14 20:49 ` Paul Koning
2021-04-14 21:38 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-15 0:13 ` Paul Koning
2021-04-15 0:40 ` Chris Punches
2021-04-14 22:40 ` Frosku
2021-04-14 23:19 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-14 23:28 ` Frosku
2021-04-14 23:36 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-14 23:39 ` Frosku
2021-04-15 0:03 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-22 22:04 ` Soul Studios
2021-04-15 14:00 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-15 15:17 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-04-15 15:27 ` Paul Koning
2021-04-15 19:21 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-04-15 19:45 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 20:02 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-15 20:03 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-04-15 20:58 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 21:24 ` Jeff Law
2021-04-14 21:40 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-14 21:57 ` Patrick McGehearty
2021-04-15 6:00 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-04-15 16:18 ` Gabriel Ravier
2021-04-14 14:23 ` Richard Kenner
2021-04-14 14:54 ` Nathan Sidwell
2021-04-14 14:57 ` Frosku
2021-04-14 15:18 ` Richard Kenner
2021-04-14 15:21 ` Frosku
2021-04-14 15:21 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-14 18:27 ` Joseph Myers
2021-04-14 20:02 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 13:49 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-15 17:31 ` David Malcolm
2021-04-15 19:05 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-15 19:48 ` Gcc as callable libraries (was: removing toxic emailers) Thomas Koenig
2021-04-15 21:19 ` David Edelsohn
2021-04-15 21:31 ` David Malcolm
2021-04-15 21:51 ` David Malcolm
2021-04-15 19:27 ` removing toxic emailers Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 20:26 ` Chris Punches
2021-04-15 20:51 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-15 21:13 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 23:11 ` Frosku
2021-04-15 23:36 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 23:44 ` Frosku
2021-04-15 23:52 ` Paul Koning
2021-04-15 23:55 ` Frosku
2021-04-16 0:00 ` Joseph Myers
2021-04-15 23:52 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-16 0:04 ` Frosku
2021-04-16 0:16 ` Joseph Myers
2021-04-16 0:41 ` Frosku
2021-04-16 1:04 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-16 0:48 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17 9:09 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2021-04-17 11:56 ` Giacomo Tesio
2021-04-17 14:41 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17 18:11 ` David Brown
2021-04-18 1:39 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-18 13:10 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-18 14:51 ` David Malcolm
2021-04-18 15:59 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-18 18:24 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-04-18 19:13 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-18 20:10 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-04-19 0:54 ` Frosku
2021-04-18 19:06 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-18 20:22 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-04-19 1:10 ` Frosku
2021-04-19 2:42 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-19 6:29 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-19 6:31 ` Frosku
2021-04-19 15:06 ` Thomas Rodgers
2021-04-19 16:57 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-20 3:47 ` Frosku
2021-04-20 5:06 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-20 7:53 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-20 14:03 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-20 14:15 ` Richard Kenner
2021-04-20 14:22 ` David Brown
2021-04-20 14:30 ` Richard Kenner
2021-04-18 11:12 ` identifying toxic emailers (was: removing toxic emailers) Giacomo Tesio
2021-04-18 12:42 ` Richard Kenner
2021-04-18 13:23 ` Giacomo Tesio
2021-04-17 13:57 ` removing toxic emailers Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 21:13 ` David Malcolm
2021-04-15 23:21 ` JeanHeyd Meneide
2021-04-15 22:09 ` Christopher Jefferson
2021-04-15 22:40 ` Jeff Law
2021-04-15 23:28 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-16 0:20 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-16 2:47 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-16 3:02 ` Frosku
2021-04-16 3:19 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-16 4:07 ` Frosku
2021-04-16 16:28 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-16 23:15 ` Frosku
2021-04-17 0:43 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17 4:05 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-17 4:08 ` Frosku
2021-04-17 5:04 ` Andrew Pinski
2021-04-17 9:08 ` Giacomo Tesio
2021-04-17 9:41 ` Frosku
2021-04-17 15:07 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17 5:35 ` Jeff Law
[not found] ` <e324569ac358127174e1ba08337166c4d9494883.camel@silogroup.org>
2021-04-17 7:53 ` Frosku
2021-04-17 8:27 ` Aaron Gyes
2021-04-17 8:36 ` Frosku
2021-04-17 9:04 ` Aaron Gyes
2021-04-17 9:08 ` Aaron Gyes
2021-04-17 9:29 ` Frosku
2021-04-17 9:25 ` Frosku
2021-04-17 14:21 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17 12:41 ` Liu Hao
2021-04-17 15:16 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17 9:29 ` Giacomo Tesio
2021-04-17 9:36 ` Frosku
2021-04-16 8:54 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-04-16 10:02 ` Thomas Koenig
[not found] ` <CAJWNc-7q+t1njvEow=a6QPD4uWA7htEZn=koRBNd3ziO4y8A-g@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CAJWNc-6rDMvK12h8PcjrTZO5E-c4qNsh0SHQ0+kmGV71Jis67Q@mail.gmail.com>
2021-04-16 14:42 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-04-16 15:14 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-16 17:31 ` NightStrike
2021-04-16 4:09 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-16 9:39 ` Kalamatee
2021-04-16 9:58 ` Frosku
2021-04-16 16:17 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-14 17:32 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 16:52 ` Martin Jambor
2021-04-14 18:19 ` Nathan Sidwell
2021-04-14 18:30 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 18:32 ` Paul Koning [this message]
2021-04-14 20:12 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 0:10 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 9:18 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-15 14:25 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 10:20 ` Aaron Gyes
2021-04-15 14:31 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 23:09 Adrian
2021-04-15 0:18 ` Soul Studios
2021-04-15 14:40 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-15 22:49 ` Frosku
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