From: Marcin Dalecki <martin@dalecki.de>
To: Joe Buck <Joe.Buck@synopsys.COM>
Cc: Steven Bosscher <s.bosscher@student.tudelft.nl>,
gcc@gcc.gnu.org, Jonathan Wakely <cow@compsoc.man.ac.uk>,
Matt Thomas <matt@3am-software.com>, Stan Shebs <shebs@apple.com>
Subject: Re: GCC 4.1: Buildable on GHz machines only?
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 01:59:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6141a6ef20edb258aad7386f9882493e@dalecki.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050427233538.GA1602@synopsys.com>
On 2005-04-28, at 01:35, Joe Buck wrote:
>
> I will agree with you on this point, but more than half of the time
> to bootstrap consists of the time to build the Java library, and
> speeding
> that up is a losing battle, as Sun keeps adding new stuff that
> libgjc/classpath is then expected to clone, and the addition rate
> seems to exceed Moore's Law.
Those are just symptoms of the fact that Java is an
emulated machine with his own OS, which just happened to forget
about any lesson in this area learned during the last 30 years.
Other then this:
please.please.bePolite.toThe.niceFine.javaApi(nowAndAlways);
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-28 1:58 UTC|newest]
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2005-04-27 3:40 Matt Thomas
2005-04-27 4:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-27 5:45 ` Richard Henderson
2005-04-27 5:50 ` Matt Thomas
2005-04-27 6:12 ` Gary Funck
2005-04-27 6:36 ` Matt Thomas
2005-04-27 6:40 ` Zack Weinberg
2005-04-27 14:47 ` David Edelsohn
2005-04-27 15:20 ` Matt Thomas
2005-04-27 15:45 ` Jonathan Wakely
2005-04-27 15:56 ` Matt Thomas
2005-04-27 16:35 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-27 20:07 ` Steven Bosscher
2005-04-27 20:36 ` Paul Koning
2005-04-27 20:41 ` sjhill
2005-04-27 20:50 ` Steven Bosscher
2005-04-27 20:52 ` Diego Novillo
2005-04-27 20:57 ` Paul Koning
2005-04-27 21:04 ` Andrew Pinski
2005-04-27 21:40 ` Paul Koning
2005-04-27 22:13 ` Andrew Pinski
2005-04-28 10:08 ` Andrew Haley
2005-04-29 4:44 ` 'make bootstrap' oprofile (13% on bash?) Scott A Crosby
2005-04-29 10:06 ` Andrew Haley
2005-04-29 14:42 ` Scott A Crosby
2005-04-29 14:59 ` Andrew Haley
2005-04-28 13:35 ` GCC 4.1: Buildable on GHz machines only? Richard Earnshaw
2005-04-28 13:58 ` Andrew Haley
2005-04-28 14:01 ` Richard Earnshaw
2005-04-28 14:20 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-28 16:10 ` Andrew Haley
2005-04-28 16:17 ` David Edelsohn
2005-04-28 16:53 ` Joe Buck
2005-04-28 16:59 ` David Edelsohn
2005-05-03 19:58 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-05-03 22:04 ` Joe Buck
2005-05-03 23:47 ` Dave Korn
2005-05-03 23:52 ` Peter O'Gorman
2005-05-04 0:02 ` Dave Korn
2005-05-04 0:06 ` Peter O'Gorman
2005-05-04 0:49 ` Richard Henderson
2005-05-04 10:32 ` Andrew Haley
2005-05-04 13:53 ` H. J. Lu
2005-05-04 13:54 ` Andrew Haley
2005-05-04 16:10 ` Joe Buck
2005-05-04 16:22 ` H. J. Lu
2005-05-04 16:38 ` Joe Buck
2005-05-04 17:08 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-05-04 18:11 ` Joe Buck
2005-05-05 5:40 ` Alan Modra
2005-05-16 14:03 ` Peter Barada
[not found] ` <42888FCF.4000207@adacore.com>
2005-05-16 14:08 ` Richard Earnshaw
[not found] ` <428895AA.204@adacore.com>
2005-05-16 14:17 ` Richard Earnshaw
[not found] ` <4288B3FA.40706@coyotegulch.com>
2005-05-16 16:18 ` Steven Bosscher
2005-05-16 16:20 ` Peter Barada
2005-05-16 17:06 ` Richard Earnshaw
2005-05-16 17:08 ` Daniel Berlin
2005-05-16 17:23 ` Richard Earnshaw
2005-05-16 18:13 ` Steven Bosscher
2005-05-16 18:54 ` Karel Gardas
2005-05-16 21:24 ` Steven Bosscher
2005-05-16 22:18 ` Joe Buck
2005-05-16 23:21 ` Steven Bosscher
2005-05-16 20:34 ` Joseph S. Myers
2005-05-16 17:18 ` Steven Bosscher
2005-05-16 19:09 ` DJ Delorie
2005-05-16 19:13 ` Andrew Pinski
2005-05-16 19:45 ` DJ Delorie
2005-05-16 21:15 ` Karel Gardas
2005-05-16 21:33 ` DJ Delorie
2005-05-16 21:44 ` Karel Gardas
2005-05-16 22:02 ` Peter Barada
2005-05-16 22:07 ` DJ Delorie
2005-05-17 0:27 ` Joe Buck
2005-05-17 0:59 ` DJ Delorie
2005-05-18 12:08 ` Karel Gardas
2005-05-16 15:28 ` Paul Koning
2005-05-16 16:04 ` Peter Barada
2005-05-16 17:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2005-05-16 17:51 ` Peter Barada
2005-05-16 18:26 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-05-16 18:50 ` Russ Allbery
2005-05-16 19:29 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-05-16 19:40 ` Russ Allbery
2005-05-16 20:13 ` Florian Weimer
2005-05-17 6:40 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-05-17 4:58 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-05-16 22:11 ` Ralf Corsepius
[not found] ` <1116279808.8237.625.camel@mccallum.corsepiu.local>
2005-05-16 22:41 ` Steven Bosscher
2005-05-17 1:09 ` Ralf Corsepius
2005-05-17 1:26 ` Steven Bosscher
2005-05-17 1:32 ` Steven Bosscher
2005-05-17 1:40 ` Joe Buck
2005-05-17 2:13 ` Steven Bosscher
2005-05-17 10:01 ` Ralf Corsepius
2005-05-17 10:20 ` Jonathan Wakely
2005-05-17 16:34 ` Joel Sherrill <joel@OARcorp.com>
2005-05-17 17:09 ` Jonathan Wakely
2005-05-17 17:56 ` Joseph S. Myers
2005-05-17 20:56 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2005-05-17 23:05 ` [wwwdocs] bugs.html cleanup (was: GCC 4.1: Buildable on GHz machines )only? Gerald Pfeifer
2005-05-17 10:22 ` GCC 4.1: Buildable on GHz machines only? Karel Gardas
2005-05-17 18:18 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-05-17 19:04 ` Karel Gardas
2005-05-17 21:03 ` Joel Sherrill <joel@OARcorp.com>
2005-05-17 21:19 ` Peter Barada
2005-05-17 21:24 ` Joel Sherrill <joel@OARcorp.com>
2005-05-17 21:56 ` Peter Barada
2005-05-21 17:31 ` Kai Henningsen
2005-05-21 17:51 ` Peter Barada
2005-05-29 4:37 ` Kai Henningsen
[not found] ` <27161322.1116363955980.JavaMail.root@dtm1eusosrv72.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net>
2005-05-17 22:52 ` Toon Moene
2005-05-17 23:09 ` Peter Barada
2005-05-18 0:00 ` Jonathan Wilson
2005-05-18 8:05 ` Ranjit Mathew
2005-05-18 8:57 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-17 17:22 ` Joe Buck
2005-05-17 17:47 ` Joel Sherrill <joel@OARcorp.com>
2005-05-17 18:56 ` Joseph S. Myers
2005-05-17 22:20 ` Hugh Sasse
2005-05-17 23:00 ` Joseph S. Myers
2005-05-18 10:29 ` Richard Earnshaw
2005-05-18 13:24 ` Joseph S. Myers
2005-05-18 9:10 ` Richard Sandiford
2005-05-18 13:21 ` Joseph S. Myers
2005-05-19 21:53 ` Richard Sandiford
2005-05-18 7:17 ` Ralf Corsepius
2005-05-18 13:45 ` Robert Dewar
2005-05-18 14:05 ` Peter Barada
2005-05-18 15:27 ` Robert Dewar
2005-05-17 19:29 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-17 20:03 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-05-17 10:16 ` Richard Earnshaw
2005-05-17 10:50 ` Steven Bosscher
2005-05-17 10:52 ` Richard Earnshaw
2005-05-17 11:37 ` Ralf Corsepius
2005-05-17 12:18 ` Steven Bosscher
2005-05-17 12:59 ` Ralf Corsepius
2005-05-17 11:39 ` Eric Botcazou
2005-05-17 20:14 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-05-17 21:03 ` Paul Brook
2005-05-18 10:13 ` Richard Earnshaw
2005-05-17 16:02 ` Joel Sherrill <joel@OARcorp.com>
2005-05-17 9:14 ` Peter Barada
2005-05-17 9:29 ` Michael Veksler
2005-05-17 9:36 ` Karel Gardas
2005-05-16 19:04 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-05-16 20:03 ` Hugh Sasse
2005-05-16 20:15 ` Mike Stump
2005-04-28 16:38 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-04-28 16:45 ` Andrew Haley
2005-04-28 16:56 ` David Edelsohn
2005-04-28 1:58 ` Tom Tromey
2005-04-28 13:52 ` Richard Earnshaw
2005-05-02 8:51 ` Marc Espie
2005-05-02 14:27 ` Peter O'Gorman
2005-05-02 18:04 ` Joe Buck
2005-04-28 16:53 ` Joe Buck
2005-04-28 17:10 ` Andrew Haley
2005-04-28 17:53 ` David Carlton
2005-04-28 18:08 ` Peter Barada
2005-04-28 18:10 ` Matt Thomas
2005-04-28 18:16 ` Joe Buck
2005-04-28 18:42 ` David Edelsohn
2005-04-28 21:50 ` Daniel Berlin
2005-04-28 22:04 ` Daniel Berlin
2005-04-27 20:59 ` Karel Gardas
2005-04-28 2:18 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-04-28 10:20 ` Dave Korn
2005-04-28 11:32 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-05-02 8:42 ` Marc Espie
2005-05-02 15:44 ` Daniel Berlin
2005-04-27 23:35 ` Stan Shebs
2005-04-27 23:40 ` Daniel Berlin
2005-04-27 23:48 ` Zack Weinberg
2005-04-27 23:49 ` Zack Weinberg
2005-04-28 0:16 ` Daniel Berlin
2005-04-28 0:28 ` Zack Weinberg
2005-04-28 1:01 ` Daniel Berlin
2005-04-28 1:06 ` Zack Weinberg
2005-04-28 1:44 ` Peter Barada
2005-04-28 1:58 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-04-28 3:21 ` Zack Weinberg
2005-04-28 3:53 ` Peter Barada
2005-04-28 4:55 ` Zack Weinberg
2005-04-28 8:03 ` Thorsten Glaser
2005-04-28 13:35 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-28 15:58 ` Joel Sherrill <joel@OARcorp.com>
2005-04-28 16:09 ` Peter Barada
2005-04-28 16:21 ` Daniel Berlin
2005-04-28 17:31 ` Devang Patel
2005-04-28 18:03 ` Daniel Berlin
2005-04-28 18:12 ` Devang Patel
2005-04-28 18:31 ` Daniel Berlin
2005-04-28 9:30 ` Karel Gardas
2005-04-28 16:03 ` Gunther Nikl
2005-04-28 16:26 ` Daniel Berlin
2005-04-29 12:02 ` Lars Segerlund
2005-04-29 15:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-03 8:15 ` Mike Stump
2005-04-27 23:42 ` Joe Buck
2005-04-28 1:59 ` Marcin Dalecki [this message]
2005-04-29 21:37 ` Stan Shebs
2005-04-28 1:48 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-04-28 13:35 ` Richard Earnshaw
2005-04-28 15:01 ` Lars Segerlund
2005-04-28 17:26 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-04-30 19:22 ` Giovanni Bajo
2005-04-29 7:09 ` Jason Thorpe
2005-04-30 19:24 ` Giovanni Bajo
2005-04-30 23:06 ` Nix
2005-04-27 15:52 ` David Edelsohn
2005-04-27 16:02 ` Richard Earnshaw
2005-04-27 16:29 ` David Edelsohn
2005-04-27 16:33 ` Richard Earnshaw
2005-04-27 16:34 ` Richard Earnshaw
2005-04-30 19:33 ` Giovanni Bajo
2005-04-27 16:19 ` Dave Korn
2005-04-28 15:44 ` Gunther Nikl
2005-04-28 18:24 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-04-28 19:01 ` Hugh Sasse
2005-04-29 10:16 ` Andrew Haley
2005-04-29 10:57 ` Jakub Jelinek
2005-05-03 20:02 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-04-29 15:36 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-04-29 16:08 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-29 16:08 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-04-29 17:30 ` Andrew Haley
2005-04-29 18:52 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-04-29 19:18 ` Joe Buck
2005-04-29 19:35 ` Andrew Haley
2005-04-29 22:58 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-04-29 23:32 ` Joe Buck
2005-04-29 23:51 ` Richard Henderson
2005-04-30 0:05 ` Hugh Sasse
2005-04-30 0:10 ` Matt Thomas
2005-04-30 0:54 ` David Daney
2005-04-30 12:14 ` Andrew Haley
2005-05-01 22:54 ` Kai Henningsen
2005-05-06 19:49 ` Tom Tromey
2005-04-30 2:59 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-04-30 9:33 ` Joe Buck
2005-05-03 7:42 ` Mike Stump
2005-04-29 20:54 ` Richard Henderson
2005-04-30 11:25 ` Andrew Haley
2005-05-01 3:48 ` libjava build times Richard Henderson
2005-05-01 9:16 ` Andrew Haley
2005-05-01 22:37 ` Thorsten Glaser
2005-05-02 4:54 ` Richard Henderson
2005-05-03 20:06 ` GCC 4.1: Buildable on GHz machines only? Alexandre Oliva
2005-04-29 9:44 ` Jason Thorpe
2005-04-29 16:32 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-04-29 17:12 ` Diego Novillo
2005-04-30 19:40 ` Giovanni Bajo
2005-05-01 1:51 ` Jason Thorpe
2005-05-02 0:41 ` Giovanni Bajo
2005-04-29 17:29 ` Joe Buck
2005-04-27 21:25 ` Mike Stump
2005-04-27 21:30 ` Matt Thomas
2005-04-27 7:58 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2005-04-29 3:30 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2005-04-27 19:45 ` Mark Mitchell
2005-05-05 0:09 ` Per Bothner
2005-05-05 1:51 ` David Daney
2005-05-05 6:51 ` Ranjit Mathew
2005-05-05 11:54 ` Ranjit Mathew
2005-05-05 14:57 ` Tom Tromey
2005-05-05 15:52 ` Per Bothner
2005-05-05 16:01 ` Andrew Haley
2005-05-05 20:10 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-05-05 21:03 ` Richard Henderson
2005-05-05 21:08 ` David Daney
2005-05-06 20:00 ` Tom Tromey
2005-05-07 23:29 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-09 8:12 ` Fernando Lozano
2005-05-09 14:53 ` Richard Earnshaw
2005-05-05 21:13 ` Rutger Ovidius
2005-05-05 23:38 ` Tom Tromey
2005-05-06 6:36 ` Ranjit Mathew
2005-05-06 8:47 ` Andrew Haley
2005-05-06 15:07 ` Rutger Ovidius
2005-05-06 15:31 ` Andrew Haley
2005-05-06 16:14 ` Rutger Ovidius
2005-05-06 16:31 ` Andrew Haley
2005-05-06 17:10 ` Rutger Ovidius
2005-05-06 17:27 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-05-06 19:08 ` Joe Buck
2005-05-06 15:49 ` Mark Wielaard
2005-05-06 16:29 ` wfor
2005-05-05 21:54 ` Andi Vajda
2005-05-06 2:58 ` Mike Stump
2005-05-08 14:34 ` Steinar Bang
2005-05-06 7:21 ` Paolo Bonzini
2005-05-06 9:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2005-05-06 15:51 ` Per Bothner
2005-05-06 17:23 ` Bug in multifile operation? Paolo Bonzini
2005-05-06 7:35 ` GCC 4.1: Buildable on GHz machines only? Paolo Bonzini
2005-04-27 6:24 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-04-27 19:57 ` Tom Tromey
2005-04-27 23:53 Daniel Kegel
2005-04-28 1:17 ` Peter Barada
2005-04-29 0:37 ` Dan Kegel
2005-04-29 5:05 ` Peter Barada
2005-04-29 16:47 ` Dan Kegel
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