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From: Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
To: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Cc: Michael Meissner <meissner@linux.ibm.com>,
	fortran@gcc.gnu.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org,
	Tobias Burnus <tobias@codesourcery.com>,
	Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
	David Edelsohn <dje.gcc@gmail.com>,
	Peter Bergner <bergner@linux.ibm.com>,
	Bill Schmidt <wschmidt@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: libgfortran.so SONAME and powerpc64le-linux ABI changes (2nd patch)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2021 12:31:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <78b71846-512d-19cf-c444-aa6eb758f58c@netcologne.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211030100326.GK304296@tucnak>

Hi Jakub,

> On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 11:30:29AM +0200, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>> - Have a compiler switch which selects between IEEE_QP and IBM_QP.
>>    This was a suggestion by Steve Lionel formerly of DEC and Intel,
>>    and they did that when they had a few floating point formats on
>>    the Alpha to choose from.  We would then have to specially annotate
>>    the KIND=16 library routines, and also maybe indicate the different
>>    argument types in module files.  Anything else would be user error.
>>    They also had the CONVERT options to go with it.
>>
>> Question: Which option would we want to pursue?  I actually think the
>> fourth one (the suggestion by Steve Lionel) is the best one.
> 
> That was the last option I was mentioning in the initial mail
> https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-October/237478.html
> 
> Copying it here:
> 
> Or the last option would be to try to make libgfortran.so.5 ABI compatible
> with both choices on powerpc64le-linux.  From quick skimming of libgfortran,
> we have lots of generated functions, which use HAVE_GFC_REAL_16 and
> GFC_REAL_16 etc. macros.  So, we could perhaps arrange for the compiler
> to use r16i or r17 instead of r16 in the names when real(kind=16) is the
> IEEE quad on powerpc64le and keep using r16 for the IBM double double.

That is quite doable.

> For the *.F90 generated files, one could achieve it by making sure
> the *r16* files are compiled with -mabi=ibmlongdouble, for
> *r16i* or *r17* with -mabi=ieeelongdouble and otherwise use kind=16 in
> those, for *.c generated files the *GFC_* macros could just ensure that
> it doesn't use long double but __ibm128 or __float128 depending on which one
> is needed.

Yep.

> But then I see e.g. the io routines to just pass in kind and so
> switch (kind) // or len
>    {
>    case ...:
>      *(GFC_REAL_*) = ...;
>    }
> etc.  Could we just pretend in the compiler to libgfortran ABI that
> powerpc64le-linux real(kind=16) is kind 17 and make sure that if anything
> would actually think it is 17 bytes it uses 16 instead (though, kind=10
> on x86-64 or i686 also isn't 10 bytes but 16 or 12, right?).

That is not something I would like to have, for purposes of cleanness.
We can always switch at run-time to a different function.  This
branch should be rather well-predicted, and additional execution
will be insignificant compared to the rest of the I/O.

> 
> That solution would most closely match what we do e.g. for C/C++, especially
> libstdc++ or glibc, we already have an option to select that -
> -mabi=ibmlongdouble vs. -mabi=ieeelongdouble and default selected during
> configure.  libgfortran would be ABI compatible with both ABIs, but user
> binaries or libraries wouldn't be.  Similarly to C, there is no different
> mangling of user symbols.

Hm, there's a difference.  I meant that we can select this at compile
time for the user, and we should at least consider adding a flag to
the module files if the routine has been compiled for IBM_QP or IEEE_QP.
We should not change the mangling of the routine names themselves,
I agree.

Best regards

	Thomas

      reply	other threads:[~2021-10-30 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-04 10:07 libgfortran.so SONAME and powerpc64le-linux ABI changes Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 11:24 ` Richard Biener
2021-10-04 11:36   ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 12:31     ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 14:14 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 16:47   ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-04 18:33   ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-04 19:24     ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-05 17:43       ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-14 19:39         ` Bill Schmidt
2021-10-15  0:26           ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-05 20:16   ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-05 21:54     ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06  6:59       ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-06 15:17         ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 15:41           ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-06 16:07             ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 16:34               ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-06 16:59                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 17:07                   ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-06 17:50                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 19:30                       ` Peter Bergner
2021-10-06 17:13                 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-06 18:39                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 19:42                     ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-06 20:57                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 21:55                         ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-06 22:03                         ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-08 17:53                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-11 20:11                             ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-15  0:16                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 15:42           ` David Edelsohn
2021-10-06 16:19             ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 17:38               ` David Edelsohn
2021-10-07  3:42           ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-08 21:10             ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-07  9:48         ` Alastair McKinstry
2021-10-07  9:56           ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-07 10:01             ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-07 12:43               ` Alastair McKinstry
2021-10-05 21:53   ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-10-07  3:35 ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-07  6:08   ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-07  9:40     ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-07 15:24     ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-07 15:33       ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-08  6:35         ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-08  7:20           ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-08 16:26             ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-08 19:11               ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-08 22:55                 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-08 23:18                   ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-09  9:11                     ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-09  9:19                       ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-09  9:25                       ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-09  7:44                   ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-10 16:14                     ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-15 13:50 ` Bill Schmidt
2021-10-15 14:20   ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-15 18:05     ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-15 18:11       ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-15 18:58         ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-15 22:24     ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-15 22:36   ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-18 19:02   ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-28  3:10 ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-29  3:36 ` libgfortran.so SONAME and powerpc64le-linux ABI changes (work in progress patches) Michael Meissner
2021-10-29 19:07   ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-29 21:06     ` Michael Meissner
2021-11-01 15:56       ` Bill Schmidt
2021-11-02 15:40         ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-30  0:16 ` libgfortran.so SONAME and powerpc64le-linux ABI changes (2nd patch) Michael Meissner
2021-10-30  9:30   ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-30 10:03     ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-30 10:31       ` Thomas Koenig [this message]

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