From: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Martin Uecker <uecker@tugraz.at>, Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Ingo Schwarze <schwarze@usta.de>,
JeanHeyd Meneide <wg14@soasis.org>,
linux-man@vger.kernel.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Various pages: SYNOPSIS: Use VLA syntax in function parameters
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2022 14:33:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <792055f0-114d-d4bc-52f0-c242d1767c0b@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7931044a-b707-5a70-86c2-be298c35aa57@gmail.com>
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Hi Martin,
On 11/13/22 14:19, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
>> But there are not only syntactical problems, because
>> also the type of the parameter might become relevant
>> and then you can get circular dependencies:
>>
>> void foo(char (*a)[sizeof *.b], char (*b)[sizeof *.a]);
>
> This seems to be a difficult stone in the road.
>
>>
>> I am not sure what would the best way to fix it. One
>> could specifiy that parameters referred to by
>> the .identifer syntax must of some integer type and
>> that the sub-expression .identifer is always
>> converted to a 'size_t'.
>
> That makes sense, but then overnight some quite useful thing came to my mind
> that would not be possible with this limitation:
>
>
> <https://software.codidact.com/posts/285946>
>
> char *
> stpecpy(char dst[.end - .dst], char *src, char end[1])
> {
> for (/* void */; dst <= end; dst++) {
> *dst = *src++;
> if (*dst == '\0')
> return dst;
> }
> /* Truncation detected */
> *end = '\0';
>
> #if !defined(NDEBUG)
> /* Consume the rest of the input string. */
> while (*src++) {};
> #endif
>
> return end + 1;
> }
And I forgot to say it: Default promotions rank high (probably the highest) in
my list of most hated features^Wbugs in C. I wouldn't convert it to size_t, but
rather follow normal promotion rules.
Since you can use anything between INTMAX_MIN and UINTMAX_MAX for accessing an
array (which took me some time to understand), I'd also allow the same here.
So, the type of the expression between [] could perfectly be signed or unsigned.
So, you could use size_t for very high indices, or e.g. ptrdiff_t if you want to
allow negative numbers. In the function above, since dst can be a pointer to
one-past-the-end (it represents a previous truncation; that's why the test
dst<=end), forcing a size_t conversion would disallow that syntax.
Cheers,
Alex
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2022-09-02 21:57 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-09-03 12:47 ` Martin Uecker
2022-09-03 13:29 ` Ingo Schwarze
2022-09-03 15:08 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-09-03 13:41 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-09-03 14:35 ` Martin Uecker
2022-09-03 14:59 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-09-03 15:31 ` Martin Uecker
2022-09-03 20:02 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-09-05 14:31 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-10 0:06 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-10 0:09 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-10 1:33 ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-10 1:39 ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-10 6:21 ` Martin Uecker
2022-11-10 10:09 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-10 23:19 ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-10 23:28 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-11 19:52 ` Martin Uecker
2022-11-12 1:09 ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-12 7:24 ` Martin Uecker
2022-11-12 12:34 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-12 12:46 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-12 13:03 ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-12 13:40 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-12 13:58 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-12 14:54 ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-12 15:35 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-12 17:02 ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-12 17:08 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-12 15:56 ` Martin Uecker
2022-11-13 13:19 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-13 13:33 ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2022-11-13 14:02 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-13 14:58 ` Martin Uecker
2022-11-13 15:15 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-13 15:32 ` Martin Uecker
2022-11-13 16:25 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-13 16:28 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-13 16:31 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-13 16:34 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-13 16:56 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-13 19:05 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-14 18:13 ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-28 22:59 ` Alex Colomar
2022-11-28 23:18 ` Alex Colomar
2022-11-29 0:05 ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-29 14:58 ` Michael Matz
2022-11-29 15:17 ` Uecker, Martin
2022-11-29 15:44 ` Michael Matz
2022-11-29 16:58 ` Uecker, Martin
2022-11-29 17:28 ` Alex Colomar
2022-11-29 16:49 ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-29 16:53 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-29 17:00 ` Martin Uecker
2022-11-29 17:19 ` Alex Colomar
2022-11-29 17:29 ` Alex Colomar
2022-12-03 21:03 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-03 21:13 ` Andrew Pinski
2022-12-03 21:15 ` Martin Uecker
2022-12-03 21:18 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-06 2:08 ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-14 17:52 ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-14 17:57 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-14 18:26 ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-28 23:02 ` Alex Colomar
2022-11-10 9:40 ` G. Branden Robinson
2022-11-10 10:59 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-10 22:25 ` G. Branden Robinson
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