* Incorporation of Objective-C 2.0 changes into GCC trunk @ 2009-07-21 19:47 Gregory Casamento 2009-07-21 19:50 ` Paolo Bonzini 2009-07-22 11:06 ` Dave Korn 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Gregory Casamento @ 2009-07-21 19:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: gcc All, Hey guys.... I'm wondering if there's a timeline for incorporating the Objective-C 2.0 changes from Apple into the trunk of GCC. If not, I would like to know what the GNUstep project can do to help make this happen. Thanks very much. :) Sincerely, GC -- Gregory Casamento Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant ## GNUstep Chief Maintainer yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa (240)274-9630 (Cell), (301)362-9640 (Home) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Incorporation of Objective-C 2.0 changes into GCC trunk 2009-07-21 19:47 Incorporation of Objective-C 2.0 changes into GCC trunk Gregory Casamento @ 2009-07-21 19:50 ` Paolo Bonzini [not found] ` <0015175933a6e5738a046f3d1925@google.com> 2009-07-22 11:06 ` Dave Korn 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2009-07-21 19:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Gregory Casamento; +Cc: gcc Gregory Casamento wrote: > All, > > Hey guys.... I'm wondering if there's a timeline for incorporating the > Objective-C 2.0 changes from Apple into the trunk of GCC. > > If not, I would like to know what the GNUstep project can do to help > make this happen. No. But you just have to take patches from Apple's GCC, polish them and send them. Do Apple's changes rely on the NeXT runtime? If not, the job would be easier. Paolo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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* Re: Incorporation of Objective-C 2.0 changes into GCC trunk [not found] ` <0015175933a6e5738a046f3d1925@google.com> @ 2009-07-21 21:02 ` Gregory Casamento 2009-07-21 21:14 ` Paolo Bonzini 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Gregory Casamento @ 2009-07-21 21:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: stevenb.gcc; +Cc: Paolo Bonzini, gcc As far as I'm aware apple has an assignment for changes to gcc, so it should be possible to pull them in. On Tuesday, July 21, 2009, <stevenb.gcc@gmail.com> wrote: > Op 21 jul. 2009 21:50 schreef Paolo Bonzini <bonzini@gnu.org>: >> Gregory Casamento wrote: >> >> > Hey guys.... I'm wondering if there's a timeline for incorporating the >> > Objective-C 2.0 changes from Apple into the trunk of GCC. >> > >> > If not, I would like to know what the GNUstep project can do to help >> > make this happen. >> >> No. But you just have to take patches from Apple's GCC, polish them and >> send them. >> >> Do Apple's changes rely on the NeXT runtime? If not, the job would be >> easier. > > Do Apple's changes have the FSF as copyright holder? If not, the job would be impossible. > > Ciao! > Steven -- Gregory Casamento Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant ## GNUstep Chief Maintainer yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa (240)274-9630 (Cell), (301)362-9640 (Home) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Incorporation of Objective-C 2.0 changes into GCC trunk 2009-07-21 21:02 ` Gregory Casamento @ 2009-07-21 21:14 ` Paolo Bonzini 2009-07-22 8:57 ` Richard Guenther 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2009-07-21 21:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Gregory Casamento; +Cc: stevenb.gcc, gcc Gregory Casamento wrote: > As far as I'm aware apple has an assignment for changes to gcc, so it > should be possible to pull them in. You're not forced to assign changes that you do not want to assign. Paolo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Incorporation of Objective-C 2.0 changes into GCC trunk 2009-07-21 21:14 ` Paolo Bonzini @ 2009-07-22 8:57 ` Richard Guenther 2009-07-22 9:58 ` Paolo Bonzini 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Richard Guenther @ 2009-07-22 8:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paolo Bonzini; +Cc: Gregory Casamento, stevenb.gcc, gcc On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Paolo Bonzini<bonzini@gnu.org> wrote: > Gregory Casamento wrote: >> As far as I'm aware apple has an assignment for changes to gcc, so it >> should be possible to pull them in. > > You're not forced to assign changes that you do not want to assign. I don't understand. Yes you are forced to assign copyright to the FSF for changes you contribute to FSF GCC. You are of course not forced to do this for your own forks of GCC. Richard. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Incorporation of Objective-C 2.0 changes into GCC trunk 2009-07-22 8:57 ` Richard Guenther @ 2009-07-22 9:58 ` Paolo Bonzini 2009-07-22 16:26 ` Chris Lattner 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2009-07-22 9:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard Guenther; +Cc: Paolo Bonzini, Gregory Casamento, stevenb.gcc, gcc On 07/22/2009 10:57 AM, Richard Guenther wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Paolo Bonzini<bonzini@gnu.org> wrote: >> Gregory Casamento wrote: >>> As far as I'm aware apple has an assignment for changes to gcc, so it >>> should be possible to pull them in. >> You're not forced to assign changes that you do not want to assign. > > I don't understand. Yes you are forced to assign copyright to the FSF > for changes you contribute to FSF GCC. You are of course not forced > to do this for your own forks of GCC. Yeah, if Apple didn't send the code to FSF GCC, the fact that Apple has an assignment does not count. They're not forced to assign changes that they do not want to assign -- as long as they keep the changes local, which they did for Objective C 2.0. The only way to know, would be to ask someone at Apple. Paolo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Incorporation of Objective-C 2.0 changes into GCC trunk 2009-07-22 9:58 ` Paolo Bonzini @ 2009-07-22 16:26 ` Chris Lattner 2009-07-22 16:48 ` Paolo Bonzini 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Chris Lattner @ 2009-07-22 16:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paolo Bonzini Cc: Richard Guenther, Paolo Bonzini, Gregory Casamento, stevenb.gcc, gcc On Jul 22, 2009, at 2:58 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > On 07/22/2009 10:57 AM, Richard Guenther wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Paolo Bonzini<bonzini@gnu.org> >> wrote: >>> Gregory Casamento wrote: >>>> As far as I'm aware apple has an assignment for changes to gcc, >>>> so it >>>> should be possible to pull them in. >>> You're not forced to assign changes that you do not want to assign. >> >> I don't understand. Yes you are forced to assign copyright to the >> FSF >> for changes you contribute to FSF GCC. You are of course not forced >> to do this for your own forks of GCC. > > Yeah, if Apple didn't send the code to FSF GCC, the fact that Apple > has an assignment does not count. They're not forced to assign > changes that they do not want to assign -- as long as they keep the > changes local, which they did for Objective C 2.0. The only way to > know, would be to ask someone at Apple. If someone is seriously interested in merging pieces of the Apple GCC tree into the main FSF tree, and if there is a process in place to make the assignment happy, I would be happy to try to make it happen. The major caveats are that the Apple GCC tree isn't in great shape (it will take some work to make the objc2 changes "submission quality" because they may break the gnu runtime, be overly darwin specific, etc), Apple engineers will not be able to help with this work, and it may take some time to get the approval to assign copyright of the code. What is the process for getting a blob of code assigned to the FSF that is not just being committed into the tree? -Chris ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Incorporation of Objective-C 2.0 changes into GCC trunk 2009-07-22 16:26 ` Chris Lattner @ 2009-07-22 16:48 ` Paolo Bonzini 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2009-07-22 16:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chris Lattner Cc: Richard Guenther, Paolo Bonzini, Gregory Casamento, stevenb.gcc, gcc > What is the process for getting a blob of code assigned to the FSF that > is not just being committed into the tree? Creating a branch on gcc.gnu.org and committing it there should be enough. Paolo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Incorporation of Objective-C 2.0 changes into GCC trunk 2009-07-21 19:47 Incorporation of Objective-C 2.0 changes into GCC trunk Gregory Casamento 2009-07-21 19:50 ` Paolo Bonzini @ 2009-07-22 11:06 ` Dave Korn 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Dave Korn @ 2009-07-22 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Gregory Casamento; +Cc: gcc Gregory Casamento wrote: > If not, I would like to know what the GNUstep project can do to help > make this happen. Persuade Apple to de-embargo their engineers from showing their faces in public round here?(*) At least from the outside, it appears that Apple(**) is simply not interested in contributing to GCC. cheers, DaveK -- (*) - http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2008-02/msg00523.html (**) - Corporately, I'm sure there will be individuals within the organisation who disagree with the policy but whose hands are tied. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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