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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 0f300a44bb69c6bbbbdc91d7e0d5fced; Fri, 12 May 2023 02:38:28 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Eli Schwartz Cc: Eli Zaretskii , gcc@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: More C type errors by default for GCC 14 In-Reply-To: <6a892ea3-6859-955f-f491-d90ccaf562ca@gmail.com> (Eli Schwartz's message of "Thu, 11 May 2023 18:43:32 -0400") References: <87mt2behdl.fsf@yahoo.com> <57238276-5966-98d6-d5f0-f5451013ed17@gmail.com> <871qjned25.fsf@yahoo.com> <67e65b41-5400-d1c2-9f43-f94d0ea7da9b@gmail.com> <83zg6b5qsv.fsf@gnu.org> <6a892ea3-6859-955f-f491-d90ccaf562ca@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 10:38:24 +0800 Message-ID: <87ednmb7fj.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21471 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,KAM_NUMSUBJECT,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: Eli Schwartz writes: > This discussion thread is about having very good technical reasons -- as > explained multiple times, including instances where you agreed that the > technical reasons were good. > > Furthermore, even despite those technical reasons, GCC is *still* > committed to not breaking those old programs anyway. GCC merely wants to > make those old programs have to be compiled in an "old-programs" mode. > > Can you explain to me how you think this goal conflicts with your goal? Because now people will have to go through dozens and dozens of Makefiles, configure.in, *.m4, just because GCC made a decision that results in everyone inserting: extern int foo (); above what used to be implicit function declarations?