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From: Daniel Berlin <dan@cgsoftware.com>
To: Jim Wilson <wilson@cygnus.com>
Cc: dje@watson.ibm.com, gcc@gcc.gnu.org, wilson@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Loop unroll fixes
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 06:55:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87elp9j2rg.fsf@cgsoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200109140650.XAA08732@rtl.cygnus.com>

Jim Wilson <wilson@cygnus.com> writes:

> The gcc development process does not work that way.  Sometimes it does take
> months before someone has time to review a patch.
>  You can't check in a
> patch just because someone didn't review it fast enough to make you happy.
>
> I also object on the grounds that you have done this twice now.  Once in
> PR 3384 as described above, and once in todays mail.  You are trying to
> bully people into reviewing a patch that furthers your own personal
> agenda.
No, I'd rather believe he's trying to just bully people into reviewing
a patch.
Which is good, in reality.
It shouldn't take months to review patches.
If it takes bullying to make review of patches happen, so be it.
If it takes adding more people who have blanket write privs, or
whatever, so be it.
The idea that a patch *should* take months to review is just plain
absurd, unless it's rewriting half of gcc.

>
> No, I didn't forget about the patch.  I am willing to review it, but in
> protest of the heavy handed tactics being used, and the complexity of the
> problem, I will defer taking action for one week.
This is the wrong approach.
Your job, as a maintainer, is to review patches.
It's not some "honor", or exalted position.
You are supposed to review every patch, that comes into your area, in
a reasonable amount of time.  Months is not reasonable.
If you can't do this, don't be a maintainer.
Deferring action for a week just looks like you are trying to have a
fiefdom of your own.

>
> Jim

-- 
"My girlfriend does her nails with white-out.  When she's asleep,
I go over there and write misspelled words on them.
"-Steven Wright

  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-14  6:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-13 16:35 Zoltan Hidvegi
2001-09-13 18:58 ` David Edelsohn
2001-09-13 23:50   ` Jim Wilson
2001-09-14  6:55     ` Daniel Berlin [this message]
2001-09-14 12:15       ` Joseph S. Myers
2001-09-14 16:45       ` Jim Wilson
2001-09-14 20:11         ` David Edelsohn
2001-09-14 22:23           ` Jim Wilson
2001-09-15  2:42           ` Bernd Schmidt
2001-09-14 21:16         ` Daniel Berlin
2001-09-14  9:41     ` David Edelsohn
2001-09-14 10:46       ` Bernd Schmidt
2001-09-14 11:47         ` David Edelsohn
2001-09-14 17:54       ` Jim Wilson
2001-09-14 18:35         ` David Edelsohn
2001-09-14 19:56           ` Jim Wilson
2001-09-15  2:56         ` Joseph S. Myers
2001-10-04  6:46 ` Franz Sirl
2001-10-04  7:40   ` Mark Mitchell
2001-10-04 20:46   ` Jim Wilson
2001-10-04 20:51     ` Mark Mitchell
2001-10-04 23:10       ` Zoltan Hidvegi
2001-10-10  0:05         ` Mark Mitchell
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0109141957550.29416-100000@host140.cambridge.redhat.com>
2001-09-14 14:36 ` David Edelsohn
     [not found] <200109142021.QAA26236@makai.watson.ibm.com>
2001-09-15  8:57 ` Bernd Schmidt
2001-09-17 13:16   ` Richard Henderson
2001-09-17 14:24     ` Joe Buck
2001-09-17 15:11       ` Richard Henderson
2001-09-17 17:22         ` Mark Mitchell
2001-09-18  2:19         ` Joseph S. Myers
2001-09-18  4:16 Richard Kenner
2001-09-18 10:47 Benjamin Kosnik
2001-09-18 11:54 mike stump
2001-09-18 12:34 ` Joseph S. Myers
2001-09-19 11:28   ` Joe Buck
2001-09-24  9:31     ` law
2001-09-18 17:36 Richard Kenner
2001-10-10  1:12 Wolfgang Bangerth
2001-10-10  1:16 ` Mark Mitchell
2001-10-10  5:14   ` Franz Sirl
2001-10-10 11:08     ` Mark Mitchell

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