From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: Paolo Bonzini <bonzini@gnu.org>
Cc: Joe Buck <Joe.Buck@synopsys.COM>, "gcc\@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Compiling programs licensed under the GPL version 2 with GCC 4.4
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:35:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87prbmcvtx.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A6D5274.6060605@gnu.org> (Paolo Bonzini's message of "Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:08:36 +0200")
* Paolo Bonzini:
>> But if I change the run-time library, I still have to license those
>> changes under the GPLv3 if I want to distribute them, right?
>
> Yes. But if you change the runtime library and link something else
> with the modified runtime library, the "something else" does not fall
> automatically under the GPLv3, even if you distribute them together.
Yes---but we've been told repeatedly over the years that you cannot
link GPLv2 programs with libraries under a GPLv2-incompatible license
and ship both on the same media, even if the library license is not
copyleft-like and does not prevent this. (If this was possible, it
would be rather trivial to work around the copyleft character of the
GPLv2.)
> The runtime library must be accompanied by the preferred form for
> modification (source code), the "something else" can even be
> distributed as a binary.
It's not the run-time library license that's the problem here. It's
the GPLv2-only program whose license appears to be infringed by
linking against the run-time library and distributing the combined
result.
Keep in mind that for a GPLv2-only program, the GPLv3 is like a
proprietary license (quite similar in effect to the Apache License
2.0, or the OpenSSL license, or the QPL, or the BSD license with the
advertising clause).
I wouldn't object if the FSF publicly declared that under their
interpretation of the GPLv2, the system library exception in the GPLv2
allows us to link against libraries shipped in a separate Debian
package, dynamically or statically. We likely have that permission
under copyright anyway. It's just against everything the FSF has told
us over the years, so I don't think it will happen.
(Legally, a placet from the FSF doesn't buy as anything, of course,
because individual copyright holders may not share the FSF
interpretation. But it would be a signal nevertheless.)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-27 9:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-25 20:53 Florian Weimer
2009-07-26 1:57 ` Joe Buck
2009-07-26 6:47 ` Florian Weimer
2009-07-26 9:38 ` Arnaud Charlet
2009-07-26 9:51 ` Florian Weimer
2009-07-26 9:56 ` Arnaud Charlet
2009-07-26 10:19 ` Florian Weimer
2009-07-26 21:51 ` Joe Buck
2009-07-27 6:10 ` Florian Weimer
2009-07-27 7:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-07-27 9:35 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2009-07-27 9:41 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-27 10:07 ` Robert Dewar
2009-07-27 10:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-07-27 10:28 ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2009-07-27 11:05 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-27 12:19 ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2009-07-27 10:38 ` Dave Korn
2009-07-27 12:12 ` Robert Dewar
2009-07-27 11:02 ` Florian Weimer
2009-07-27 12:10 ` Robert Dewar
2009-07-27 14:29 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-07-28 0:34 ` Russ Allbery
2009-07-28 0:57 ` Joe Buck
2009-07-26 7:12 ` Vincent Lefevre
2009-07-27 21:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
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