From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10725 invoked by alias); 9 Sep 2004 19:22:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 10623 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2004 19:22:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.codesourcery.com) (65.74.133.10) by sourceware.org with SMTP; 9 Sep 2004 19:22:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 21462 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2004 19:22:09 -0000 Received: from taltos.codesourcery.com (zack@66.92.218.83) by mail.codesourcery.com with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Sep 2004 19:22:09 -0000 Received: by taltos.codesourcery.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 9 Sep 2004 12:22:09 -0700 To: Robert Dewar Cc: Richard Kenner , gcc@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: Reenabling Ada by default References: <10409091853.AA12167@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu> <87656nmfe7.fsf@codesourcery.com> <4140AC5F.4020608@gnat.com> From: Zack Weinberg Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 19:40:00 -0000 In-Reply-To: <4140AC5F.4020608@gnat.com> (Robert Dewar's message of "Thu, 09 Sep 2004 15:17:51 -0400") Message-ID: <87r7pbl02m.fsf@codesourcery.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-SW-Source: 2004-09/txt/msg00470.txt.bz2 [Would you mind trimming down your quotes a bit?] Robert Dewar writes: > Zack Weinberg wrote: >> Richard Kenner writes: >>>(1) The set of people who modify it is very localized. There are >>>extremely few (perhaps no) people on this list outside of ACT/ACTE >>>who are knowlegable enough to make Ada front-end modifications >>>... >> It does not matter how few people are qualified to review patches for >> the Ada front end. The requirement is that patch review occur in >> public. I am assuming that there is an internal review process; all >> we are asking is that you do that on an open mailing list so that >> others can observe. > > The internal review process very often involves proprietary customer > information, so generally this kind of opening up is not possible. > Remember that the great majority of bugs that are being fixed by > AdaCore are from customers with proprietary code. This is another problem that faces all other corporate-funded contributors to GCC, too, and guess what? We all somehow manage to deal. Usually by coming up with synthetic non-encumbered test cases. zw