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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: "Mallappa\, Premachandra" <Premachandra.Mallappa@amd.com>
Cc: "libc-alpha\@sourceware.org" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	"gcc\@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
	"llvm-dev\@lists.llvm.org" <llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org>,
	"x86-64-abi\@googlegroups.com" <x86-64-abi@googlegroups.com>,
	"H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>, "matz\@suse.de" <matz@suse.de>,
	Tom Stellard <tstellar@redhat.com>, Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: New x86-64 micro-architecture levels
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 17:54:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tuxrskhi.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM5PR12MB1787C9B6F13978965B62CCBDE7790@DM5PR12MB1787.namprd12.prod.outlook.com> (Premachandra Mallappa's message of "Wed, 22 Jul 2020 16:45:08 +0000")

* Premachandra Mallappa:

> [AMD Public Use]

>>> Also we would also like to have dynamic loader support for "zen" / 
>>> "zen2" as a version of "Level D" and takes preference over Level D, 
>>> which may have super-optimized libraries from AMD or other vendors.
>
>> *That* shouldn't be too hard to implement if we can nail down the selection criteria.  Let's call this Zen-specific Level C x86-zen-avx2 for the sake of exposition.
>
> Some way of specifying a superset of "level C" , that "C" will capture fully.
>
> Zen/zen2 takes precedence over Level C, but not Level D, but falls
> back to "Level C" or "x86-avx2" but not "x86-avx".
>
> I think it is better to run a x86-zen on a x86-avx2 or x86-avx
> compared to running on a base x86_64 config.

We discussed this off-list for a bit and concluded that we do not want
to address this as part of this proposal.

I went ahead and created a merge request against the x86-64 psABI
supplement:

  <https://gitlab.com/x86-psABIs/x86-64-ABI/-/merge_requests/8>

I used x86-64-v2 etc. as the level names, picking up the suggestion to
use x86-64 there.  I think we don't need to share names with 32-bit (if
that ever happens), as explained here:

  <https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2020-July/116536.html>

There are only three new levels (level B was merged into level C).

I tried to make precise the meaning of the levels by matching them to
CPU features, based on their CPUID detection logic.  It's somewhat
complicated, but I think it's within reason for the task at hand.

Thanks,
Florian


      parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-28 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-10 17:30 Florian Weimer
2020-07-10 19:14 ` Joseph Myers
2020-07-13  7:55   ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-10 21:42 ` H.J. Lu
2020-07-13  6:23   ` Richard Biener
2020-07-13  7:40     ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-13  7:47       ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-13 13:31         ` H.J. Lu
2020-07-13 13:53           ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-07-13  8:57       ` Richard Biener
2020-07-13  6:49   ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-13 13:30     ` H.J. Lu
2020-07-11  7:40 ` Allan Sandfeld Jensen
2020-07-13  6:58   ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-15 14:38 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-07-15 14:45   ` H.J. Lu
2020-07-15 14:56   ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-21 16:05 ` Mallappa, Premachandra
2020-07-21 18:04   ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-22  1:31     ` Dongsheng Song
2020-07-22  8:44       ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-22  9:26         ` Richard Biener
2020-07-22 10:16           ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-22 13:50             ` Richard Biener
2020-07-22 14:21               ` H.J. Lu
2020-07-31 13:06           ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-07-22  7:48     ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-22 10:34       ` Florian Weimer
2020-07-22 11:41         ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-31 13:20         ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-07-22 16:45     ` Mallappa, Premachandra
2020-07-23 12:44       ` Michael Matz
2020-07-23 13:21         ` H.J. Lu
2020-07-28 15:54       ` Florian Weimer [this message]

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