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From: Zack Weinberg <zack@codesourcery.com>
To: Robert Dewar <dewar@gnat.com>
Cc: Richard Henderson <rth@redhat.com>,
	 Laurent GUERBY <laurent@guerby.net>,
	 Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>,
	 gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Ada policy
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 02:54:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y8jw3vo1.fsf@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4133D371.5030203@gnat.com> (Robert Dewar's message of "Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:25:05 -0400")

Robert Dewar <dewar@gnat.com> writes:

> Zack Weinberg wrote:
>
>> Robert Dewar <dewar@gnat.com> writes:
>>
>>>Reading Zack's message:
>>>
>>>>Second, the Ada maintainers have said in the past that they
>>>>deliberately break source compatibility between releases (such that
>>>>GCC 3.x with Ada is only guaranteed to be buildable with GCC 3.(x-1)).
>>>
>>>That's entirely wrong. Nothing is broken deliberately, and no one
>>>ever said anything of the kind.
>> I disagree; that *is*, in fact, what is said or at least strongly
>> implied by messages like
>> <http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2002-05/msg00086.html>:
>
> No, it definitely is NOT said here. There is absolutely nothing
> there about deliberately breaking source compatibility. I can't
> imagine how you manage this strange reading.

Whereas I cannot imagine how you manage to miss what is a clear
implication of the text of that message.

I'm willing to accept what you say now as a statement of a changed
policy, though.

> Just so things are clear, we start our nightly runs with several
> different older versions of the compiler precisely to make sure we
> retain as much compatibility with old versions as possible for
> builds.

I am very glad to hear this.  A further step forward would be to
state which older versions those are, what your policies are for
selecting those older versions, and when the set might change.

>> I'd also add that personally, I consider my third requirement
>> (patch submission according to the same requirements binding 
>> on all other contributors) to be much more important than the 
>> one you chose to discuss.
>
> You must be missing some messages in this thread, since that has
> most certainly been discussed by me and others.

Test cases has been discussed at length, but the other ways in which
ACT does not follow the patch submission requirements have not been
discussed at all.

zw

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-31  2:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-30 10:44 GCC 3.5 Status (2004-08-29) Richard Kenner
2004-08-30 11:27 ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-08-30 13:05   ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-08-30 18:28     ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-08-30 20:04       ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-08-30 20:25         ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-08-31  5:27           ` Eric Botcazou
2004-08-31  9:42           ` Arnaud Charlet
2004-08-30 20:14       ` Florian Weimer
2004-08-30 20:34         ` Ada policy (was: GCC 3.5 Status (2004-08-29)) Laurent GUERBY
2004-08-30 20:53           ` Ada policy Zack Weinberg
2004-08-30 20:55             ` Richard Guenther
2004-08-30 21:04             ` Richard Henderson
2004-08-30 21:24               ` Diego Novillo
2004-08-30 22:25               ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31  1:13                 ` Zack Weinberg
2004-08-31  2:37                   ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31  2:54                     ` Zack Weinberg [this message]
2004-08-31  3:00                       ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31  3:28                         ` Zack Weinberg
2004-08-31  3:41                           ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31  4:22                             ` Zack Weinberg
2004-08-31 12:55                               ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31 15:02                                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-08-31 15:36                                   ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31 13:06                               ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31 15:10                                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-08-31 18:10                                   ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-08-31 18:30                                     ` Zack Weinberg
2004-08-31 18:55                                       ` Robert Dewar
2004-09-01 17:12                                         ` Kai Henningsen
2004-09-01 17:32                                           ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31 18:59                                       ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31 20:05                                         ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-08-31 20:26                                           ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31 20:53                                             ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-08-31 20:56                                               ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-08-31 21:11                                             ` Florian Weimer
2004-08-31 21:50                                               ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31 19:02                                       ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31 19:28                                       ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-08-31 19:36                                         ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31 18:42                                     ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31 13:10                               ` Florian Weimer
2004-08-31 13:47                                 ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-30 21:05             ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-08-31 22:02             ` Geoffrey Keating
2004-08-31 22:11               ` Florian Weimer
2004-08-31 22:14               ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31  0:13           ` Florian Weimer
2004-08-30 21:41 Richard Kenner
2004-08-30 21:53 ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-08-30 22:28   ` Florian Weimer
2004-08-30 22:30     ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-08-30 23:01       ` Florian Weimer
2004-08-31 18:45         ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-08-30 22:43     ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-30 23:01       ` Florian Weimer
2004-08-31  0:11         ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31  0:14           ` Florian Weimer
2004-08-30 22:34   ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-30 22:31 ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-30 22:48   ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-08-30 22:52     ` Mike Stump
2004-08-30 23:00       ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-30 22:55     ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-30 22:52 ` Mike Stump
2004-08-30 22:56   ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-30 22:01 Richard Kenner
2004-08-30 22:02 ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-08-30 22:18 Richard Kenner
2004-08-30 22:38 ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-30 23:06 Richard Kenner
2004-08-31  2:59 ` Mike Stump
2004-08-31  3:10   ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31  8:16 ` Per Bothner
2004-08-31 13:22   ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31  1:25 Richard Kenner
2004-08-31  1:57 ` Zack Weinberg
2004-08-31  3:22 Richard Kenner
2004-08-31  3:29 ` Zack Weinberg
2004-08-31  4:05   ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31  4:05     ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31  4:38       ` Zack Weinberg
2004-08-31  5:01   ` Matt Austern
2004-08-31 13:08     ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31  3:31 Richard Kenner
2004-08-31  4:07 ` Zack Weinberg
2004-08-31 22:06   ` Kai Henningsen
2004-08-31 22:19     ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31 23:15       ` Florian Weimer
2004-09-01  1:23         ` Robert Dewar
2004-09-01 12:36           ` Florian Weimer
2004-09-01 12:51             ` Robert Dewar
2004-09-02 13:42               ` Florian Weimer
2004-09-03  7:54                 ` Robert Dewar
2004-09-09 21:00                   ` Florian Weimer
2004-09-09 21:15                     ` Robert Dewar
2004-08-31  3:34 Richard Kenner
2004-08-31 12:53 Richard Kenner
2004-09-01 18:19 Robert Dewar
2004-09-01 18:51 ` Joe Buck
2004-09-01 20:21   ` Robert Dewar
2004-09-01 20:44     ` Joe Buck
2004-09-01 20:52       ` Robert Dewar
2004-09-01 20:53       ` Robert Dewar
2004-09-01 20:48 Richard Kenner
2004-09-11 10:43 Ada Policy Nathanael Nerode
2004-09-11 14:29 Richard Kenner

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