From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E68EC3858296 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 14:24:47 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org E68EC3858296 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=mad-scientist.net Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=mad-scientist.net Received: from cmgw10.mail.unifiedlayer.com (unknown [10.0.90.125]) by progateway6.mail.pro1.eigbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B172100471FE for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 14:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from box5922.bluehost.com ([162.241.30.80]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id yw6Yo76jeX5pEyw6YoBGtY; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 14:24:30 +0000 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=EO/Db3VC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=6382219e a=u+82WREdhvUKZ7QTvcqjvQ==:117 a=u+82WREdhvUKZ7QTvcqjvQ==:17 a=dLZJa+xiwSxG16/P+YVxDGlgEgI=:19 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10:nop_charset_1 a=9xFQ1JgjjksA:10:nop_rcvd_month_year a=3EOfIcITIxQA:10:endurance_base64_authed_username_1 a=lfbDHuGmttCkGG2v-y8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10:nop_charset_2 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mad-scientist.us; s=default; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:References:In-Reply-To:Date:To:Reply-To:From:Subject:Message-ID: Sender:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=J2l7m320GEh86lvqAh4sqFg1JCGVMQkQ34Sd0fiedZw=; b=YTP9qW8kWTq8xUJr2S/7M0XNEN txciPBQze9cHMnJpELH3G77rbGciEvjxqUeWqqEZXLAr31Z1W5gVUZTSDU3JaaOmqFWA27WH83GoT +PTpWdlJKEDY6ZQOC0XDm5sVh; Received: from static-11-191-147-69.axsne.net ([69.147.191.11]:10403 helo=[10.200.115.90]) by box5922.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1oyw6W-000GBp-RF; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 07:24:29 -0700 Message-ID: <8c7a412a16ceb823fff6b4c19731e77ced3a7a3f.camel@mad-scientist.net> Subject: Re: GNU = Junkware From: Paul Smith Reply-To: paul@mad-scientist.net To: Dave Blanchard , gcc@gcc.gnu.org Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2022 09:24:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20221126032052.2f32ed2af88309edd76aa262@killthe.net> References: <20221126032052.2f32ed2af88309edd76aa262@killthe.net> Organization: Please remain calm--I may be mad but I am a professional! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.46.1 (by Flathub.org) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box5922.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gcc.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - mad-scientist.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 69.147.191.11 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1oyw6W-000GBp-RF X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: static-11-191-147-69.axsne.net ([10.200.115.90]) [69.147.191.11]:10403 X-Source-Auth: paul@mad-scientist.us X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: bWFkc2NpZTE7bWFkc2NpZTE7Ym94NTkyMi5ibHVlaG9zdC5jb20= X-Local-Domain: yes X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,JMQ_SPF_NEUTRAL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On Sat, 2022-11-26 at 03:20 -0600, Dave Blanchard wrote: > GNU GCC/GLIBC IS THE MOST PAINFUL PIECE OF SHIT FUCKING SOFTWARE ON > THE PLANET TO BOOTSTRAP. Seems like a good time to remember the old adage, if you think everyone else is the asshole then you should consider that it's really you who's the asshole. If it's taken a full year and you're not done yet, maybe you're just not suited to this type of work. I'm not trolling either: it's not for everyone and that's fine. There's lots of things to do and you'd probably be happier doing something else. > Seemingly the only way that will ever finally get this junk working > is to just sit there randomly trying different stuff in the hope that > it somehow moves one closer toward getting something that works > right. Yes, I believe you've proved my guess correct here.