From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.polymtl.ca (smtp.polymtl.ca [132.207.4.11]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD77B385701F for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 14:06:07 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org BD77B385701F Received: from simark.ca (simark.ca [158.69.221.121]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.polymtl.ca (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 138E622d001157 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 8 Apr 2021 10:06:06 -0400 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp.polymtl.ca 138E622d001157 Received: from [10.0.0.11] (192-222-157-6.qc.cable.ebox.net [192.222.157.6]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by simark.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 011CB1E54D; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 10:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Default debug format for AVR To: David Edelsohn , Richard Biener Cc: GCC Development References: <2cbc9ee0-31bf-f933-758f-8e5ebe8eab0e@polymtl.ca> <3d21f80d-6747-23fc-ab2c-3ebb53d5dd45@polymtl.ca> <7EFD1A72-F0EB-494E-92BF-92DE932B1CCE@gmail.com> From: Simon Marchi Message-ID: <8e6f1f9b-13cf-c82c-a67b-b35cde4e2e31@polymtl.ca> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 10:06:01 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Poly-FromMTA: (simark.ca [158.69.221.121]) at Thu, 8 Apr 2021 14:06:02 +0000 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gcc@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2021 14:06:12 -0000 On 2021-04-08 9:11 a.m., David Edelsohn wrote: >>> AIX continues to use and support STABS, although it is transitioning >>> to DWARF. If this is intended as a general statement about removal of >>> STABS support in GCC, >> >> Yes, it is. >> >> Richard. > > Richard, > > It is inappropriate to unilaterally make this decision without > discussion with all affected ports and maintainers, without warning, > and without deprecation. I request that you rescind this decision. > > It is somewhat ironic to act as a dictator when we are having a > discussion about dictatorial behavior in GCC leadership. I don't really want to start such a debate about GCC politics. If stabs is not ready to be deleted, that's fine. But it would be good to go through all targets for which it is the default (like avr), and see if they are ready to be switched to DWARF. That's a baby step towards eventually deleting it. Simon