From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21173 invoked by alias); 19 Nov 2004 19:17:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 21115 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2004 19:17:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-out3.apple.com) (17.254.13.22) by sourceware.org with SMTP; 19 Nov 2004 19:17:12 -0000 Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (a17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out3.apple.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAJJNKe9027843 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:23:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay2.apple.com (relay2.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.14) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:17:51 -0800 Received: from [17.201.20.186] (gambrinus.apple.com [17.201.20.186]) by relay2.apple.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAJJGrdC017204; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:16:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1B18C7B1-39E3-11D9-B2D5-000A95BCF344@apple.com> References: <442C1616-387F-11D9-9815-0030654C2998@hamburg.de> <3D92B030-39C3-11D9-8317-00039390FFE2@apple.com> <1B18C7B1-39E3-11D9-B2D5-000A95BCF344@apple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <926459B3-3A5F-11D9-9965-000A95D7CD40@apple.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gcc mailing list , Mike Stump , Dale Johannesen , Ziemowit Laski , Helge Hess , GNUStep , Geoffrey Keating From: Dale Johannesen Subject: Re: Is ObjC++ still in time for 4.0? Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:44:00 -0000 To: Matt Austern X-SW-Source: 2004-11/txt/msg00690.txt.bz2 On Nov 18, 2004, at 8:25 PM, Matt Austern wrote: > Apple already pays Geoff. Zem, Geoff, and I are all Apple employees. > > This discussion should probably happen offline. It's in Apple's > interest for ObjC++ to get into mainline. It's also in Apple's > interest to make sure that there aren't any changes that hurt compiler > performance. It's silly for this discussion to be happening on an > international email list when most of the people participating in it > have offices on the same floor of the same building. Yep. At least it may be educating the people who have the silly idea Apple is some kind of monolith....