From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 956 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 2010 23:13:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 946 invoked by uid 22791); 2 Aug 2010 23:13:03 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_HELO_PASS,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from smtp-out.google.com (HELO smtp-out.google.com) (216.239.44.51) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 23:12:58 +0000 Received: from kpbe20.cbf.corp.google.com (kpbe20.cbf.corp.google.com [172.25.105.84]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id o72NCu7a022200 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2010 16:12:56 -0700 Received: from ywe9 (ywe9.prod.google.com [10.192.5.9]) by kpbe20.cbf.corp.google.com with ESMTP id o72NCME3020993 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2010 16:12:55 -0700 Received: by ywe9 with SMTP id 9so1631930ywe.21 for ; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:12:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.28.26 with SMTP id f26mr7161756anj.149.1280790774661; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.33.1 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Aug 2010 16:12:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C536B50.4010402@codesourcery.com> References: <4BFC6EF0.4090908@codesourcery.com> <20100714172307.3687a9c4@shotwell> <4C48D2C4.5000103@codesourcery.com> <4C48D60E.3000604@codesourcery.com> <20100726175013.20b12428@shotwell> <4C4E35B8.6010301@codesourcery.com> <4C4E37FC.1060208@adacore.com> <4C4F010C.5060401@codesourcery.com> <20100727180738.GU17485@synopsys.com> <4C4F20E8.5050206@codesourcery.com> <4C509E54.6090401@codesourcery.com> <11007291247.AA02219@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu> <4C5195FA.2060208@codesourcery.com> <4C52B176.7040807@adacore.com> <4C52E1C0.6090400@codesourcery.com> <4C53696B.7030801@adacore.com> <4C536B50.4010402@codesourcery.com> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 23:13:00 -0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GFDL/GPL issues From: Diego Novillo To: Mark Mitchell Cc: Robert Dewar , Richard Kenner , iant@google.com, Joe.Buck@synopsys.com, ams@gnu.org, bkoz@redhat.com, gcc@gcc.gnu.org, richard.guenther@gmail.com, stevenb.gcc@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-System-Of-Record: true X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org X-SW-Source: 2010-08/txt/msg00013.txt.bz2 On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 00:16, Mark Mitchell wrote: > In any case, you're suggesting we go against the express wishes of the > FSF. =C2=A0Would you suggest that we do that in the context of FSF GCC? Well, this issue is another one in a long series of roadblocks that we've had to struggle with over the years. So, eventually, we should seriously consider not being an FSF project anymore. We are already having trouble keeping our documentation up-to-date. Some of it is in such a poor shape as to be laughable. Yes, it's mostly our fault, but if we were able to generate documentation by simply extracting it from the code. Tools exist for this, and properly maintained, they are very useful. SC folks, please find some way of convincing the FSF to stop being unreasonable about this. We are already having a hard time generating good documentation. Why make it harder than it is? Diego.