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* Re: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3
       [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1006052251280.32666@digraph.polyomino.org.uk>
@ 2010-06-06 22:50   ` Gerald Pfeifer
  2010-06-06 23:36     ` Jonathan Wakely
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2010-06-06 22:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: libstdc++; +Cc: gcc

Hi guys in libstd++ land,

On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Joseph S. Myers wrote:
>> The FSF has requested that we move our documentation license from
>> GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3.
> The DocBook documentation for libstdc++ will also need its license 
> notices and copy of the GFDL updated.

would you mind making this change, too, and move your documentation
from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3?

Thanks,
Gerald

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* Re: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3
  2010-06-06 22:50   ` [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3 Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2010-06-06 23:36     ` Jonathan Wakely
  2010-06-06 23:47       ` Jonathan Wakely
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Wakely @ 2010-06-06 23:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: libstdc++, gcc

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On 6 June 2010 22:54, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> Hi guys in libstd++ land,
>
> On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Joseph S. Myers wrote:
>>> The FSF has requested that we move our documentation license from
>>> GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3.
>> The DocBook documentation for libstdc++ will also need its license
>> notices and copy of the GFDL updated.
>
> would you mind making this change, too, and move your documentation
> from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3?

I think the attached patch is all that's needed.

I'll apply it unless anyone can see anything I missed?

        * doc/Makefile.am, doc/Makefile.in (xml_sources_extra): Add
        fdl-1.3.xml.
        * doc/xml/manual/intro.xml: Update FDL link.
        * doc/xml/manual/spine.xml: Update FDL include.
        * doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.3.xml: Add.
        * doc/html/*: Regenerate.

Jonathan

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Index: doc/Makefile.am
===================================================================
--- doc/Makefile.am	(revision 160350)
+++ doc/Makefile.am	(working copy)
@@ -172,6 +172,7 @@ xml_sources_manual = \
 
 xml_sources_extra = \
 	${xml_dir}/gnu/fdl-1.2.xml \
+	${xml_dir}/gnu/fdl-1.3.xml \
 	${xml_dir}/gnu/gpl-2.0.xml \
 	${xml_dir}/gnu/gpl-3.0.xml
 
Index: doc/Makefile.in
===================================================================
--- doc/Makefile.in	(revision 160350)
+++ doc/Makefile.in	(working copy)
@@ -333,6 +333,7 @@ xml_sources_manual = \
 
 xml_sources_extra = \
 	${xml_dir}/gnu/fdl-1.2.xml \
+	${xml_dir}/gnu/fdl-1.3.xml \
 	${xml_dir}/gnu/gpl-2.0.xml \
 	${xml_dir}/gnu/gpl-3.0.xml
 
Index: doc/xml/manual/intro.xml
===================================================================
--- doc/xml/manual/intro.xml	(revision 160350)
+++ doc/xml/manual/intro.xml	(working copy)
@@ -166,8 +166,8 @@ requirements of the license of GCC.
       The documentation shipped with the library and made available over
       the web, excluding the pages generated from source comments, are
       copyrighted by the Free Software Foundation, and placed under the
-      <link linkend="appendix.gfdl-1.2"> GNU Free Documentation
-      License version 1.2</link>.  There are no Front-Cover Texts, no
+      <link linkend="appendix.gfdl-1.3"> GNU Free Documentation
+      License version 1.3</link>.  There are no Front-Cover Texts, no
       Back-Cover Texts, and no Invariant Sections.
     </para>
 
Index: doc/xml/manual/spine.xml
===================================================================
--- doc/xml/manual/spine.xml	(revision 160350)
+++ doc/xml/manual/spine.xml	(working copy)
@@ -131,7 +131,7 @@
 
 <!-- Appendix E -->
 <xi:include xmlns:xi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XInclude"
-	    parse="xml" href="../gnu/fdl-1.2.xml">
+	    parse="xml" href="../gnu/fdl-1.3.xml">
 </xi:include>
 
 </part>
Index: doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.3.xml
===================================================================
--- doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.3.xml	(revision 0)
+++ doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.3.xml	(revision 0)
@@ -0,0 +1,560 @@
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* Re: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3
  2010-06-06 23:36     ` Jonathan Wakely
@ 2010-06-06 23:47       ` Jonathan Wakely
  2010-06-07  1:41         ` Gerald Pfeifer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Wakely @ 2010-06-06 23:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: libstdc++, gcc

On 6 June 2010 23:50, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> On 6 June 2010 22:54, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
>> Hi guys in libstd++ land,
>>
>> On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Joseph S. Myers wrote:
>>>> The FSF has requested that we move our documentation license from
>>>> GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3.
>>> The DocBook documentation for libstdc++ will also need its license
>>> notices and copy of the GFDL updated.
>>
>> would you mind making this change, too, and move your documentation
>> from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3?
>
> I think the attached patch is all that's needed.
>
> I'll apply it unless anyone can see anything I missed?
>
>        * doc/Makefile.am, doc/Makefile.in (xml_sources_extra): Add
>        fdl-1.3.xml.
>        * doc/xml/manual/intro.xml: Update FDL link.
>        * doc/xml/manual/spine.xml: Update FDL include.
>        * doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.3.xml: Add.
>        * doc/html/*: Regenerate.
>
> Jonathan

Committed. Someone with shell access needs to run the script to update
the copy of the docs on the website.

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* Re: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3
  2010-06-06 23:47       ` Jonathan Wakely
@ 2010-06-07  1:41         ` Gerald Pfeifer
  2010-06-07  7:37           ` Jonathan Wakely
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2010-06-07  1:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jonathan Wakely; +Cc: libstdc++, gcc

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On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
>>        * doc/Makefile.am, doc/Makefile.in (xml_sources_extra): Add
>>        fdl-1.3.xml.
>>        * doc/xml/manual/intro.xml: Update FDL link.
>>        * doc/xml/manual/spine.xml: Update FDL include.
>>        * doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.3.xml: Add.
>>        * doc/html/*: Regenerate.
> Committed. Someone with shell access needs to run the script to update
> the copy of the docs on the website.

I'll be happy to do so, just let me know what the magic invocation is.

And wouldn't it be appropriate to remove doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.2.xml now
that you have added fdl-1.3.xml?

Gerald

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* Re: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3
  2010-06-07  1:41         ` Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2010-06-07  7:37           ` Jonathan Wakely
  2010-06-13 22:40             ` Gerald Pfeifer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Wakely @ 2010-06-07  7:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: libstdc++, gcc

On 7 June 2010 00:36, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
>>>        * doc/Makefile.am, doc/Makefile.in (xml_sources_extra): Add
>>>        fdl-1.3.xml.
>>>        * doc/xml/manual/intro.xml: Update FDL link.
>>>        * doc/xml/manual/spine.xml: Update FDL include.
>>>        * doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.3.xml: Add.
>>>        * doc/html/*: Regenerate.
>> Committed. Someone with shell access needs to run the script to update
>> the copy of the docs on the website.
>
> I'll be happy to do so, just let me know what the magic invocation is.

Thanks, see /home/gccadmin/scripts/update_web_docs_libstdcxx_svn

> And wouldn't it be appropriate to remove doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.2.xml now
> that you have added fdl-1.3.xml?

Possibly. We still have gpl-2.0.xml there, which doesn't seem to be
included.  I followed that example.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread

* Re: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3
  2010-06-07  7:37           ` Jonathan Wakely
@ 2010-06-13 22:40             ` Gerald Pfeifer
  2010-06-13 22:51               ` onlinedocs/libstdc++ apperas stale (was: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3) Gerald Pfeifer
  2010-06-13 23:24               ` [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3 Jonathan Wakely
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2010-06-13 22:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jonathan Wakely; +Cc: libstdc++, gcc

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> Thanks, see /home/gccadmin/scripts/update_web_docs_libstdcxx_svn

I ran this script, and verified that it runs daily, 55 minutes after
midnight UTC.  Alas, it seems the script does not lead to the desired
result -- the libstdc++ onlinedocs/ pages appear stale.
> 
>> And wouldn't it be appropriate to remove doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.2.xml now
>> that you have added fdl-1.3.xml?
> Possibly. We still have gpl-2.0.xml there, which doesn't seem to be
> included.  I followed that example.

If you are not using GPL 2.0 nor FDL 1.2 anymore in libstdc++ (and we
should not be using these two anymore in all of GCC), we shold remove
them.  Would you mind doing that or should I give it a try?

Gerald

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* onlinedocs/libstdc++ apperas stale (was: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3)
  2010-06-13 22:40             ` Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2010-06-13 22:51               ` Gerald Pfeifer
  2010-06-13 23:23                 ` onlinedocs/libstdc++ appears stale Gerald Pfeifer
  2010-07-14 23:51                 ` onlinedocs/libstdc++ apperas stale (was: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3) Benjamin Kosnik
  2010-06-13 23:24               ` [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3 Jonathan Wakely
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2010-06-13 22:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: libstdc++; +Cc: gcc

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
>> Thanks, see /home/gccadmin/scripts/update_web_docs_libstdcxx_svn
> I ran this script, and verified that it runs daily, 55 minutes after
> midnight UTC.  Alas, it seems the script does not lead to the desired
> result -- the libstdc++ onlinedocs/ pages appear stale.

Got it!

  % ll /www/gcc/htdocs/onlinedocs/libstdc++
  -rw-r--r--   1 gccadmin gcc   4434 Jun 12 00:55 api.html
  -rw-r--r--   1 gccadmin gcc   1539 Jun 13 22:07 api.html.gz
  -rw-r--r--   1 gccadmin gcc   1786 Apr 22 00:55 bk02.html
  -rw-r--r--   1 gccadmin gcc    698 Jun 13 22:07 bk02.html.gz
  -rw-r--r--   1 gccadmin gcc   1762 Apr 22 00:55 bk03.html
  -rw-r--r--   1 gccadmin gcc    692 Jun 13 22:07 bk03.html.gz
  drwxr-sr-x  16 bkoz     gcc   4096 Apr 12  2008 dated
  drwxrwsr-x   3 pme      gcc   4096 Jun 13 22:07 ext
  -rw-r--r--   1 gccadmin gcc  66038 Jun 12 00:55 faq.html
  -rw-r--r--   1 gccadmin gcc  17129 Jun 13 22:07 faq.html.gz
  -rw-r--r--   1 bkoz     gcc    994 Oct  5  2009 index.html
  -rw-r--r--   1 gccadmin gcc    511 Jun 13 22:07 index.html.gz

The script places up-to-date .html.gz files in the web infrastructure,
alas we do have older .html there -- and our web server is happy to
serve those over the compressed ones.

In any case, we surely do not want to have _inconsistent_ versions of
the same contents there.

I guess what we should rather do is copying over the .html files from
the temporary directory into the web tree and then do the compressing
in the web tree.  But I assume you guys on the libstdc++ side are a lot
more familiar with this, so it's your call.

There may be other ideas, just what we currently have doesn't seem to 
work.

Gerald

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread

* Re: onlinedocs/libstdc++ appears stale
  2010-06-13 22:51               ` onlinedocs/libstdc++ apperas stale (was: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3) Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2010-06-13 23:23                 ` Gerald Pfeifer
  2010-06-14  1:15                   ` Jonathan Wakely
  2010-07-14 23:51                 ` onlinedocs/libstdc++ apperas stale (was: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3) Benjamin Kosnik
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2010-06-13 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: libstdc++; +Cc: gcc

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
>>> Thanks, see /home/gccadmin/scripts/update_web_docs_libstdcxx_svn
> The script places up-to-date .html.gz files in the web infrastructure,
> alas we do have older .html there -- and our web server is happy to
> serve those over the compressed ones.
> 
> In any case, we surely do not want to have _inconsistent_ versions of
> the same contents there.

Any objection to me running the following

  find . -name '*.html' | while read f; do
    g="$f.gz"
    if [ -e "$g" ] && [ "$f" -ot "$g" ]; then
      echo "$f is older than $g and should be removed."
    fi
  done

where the echo is replaced by an "rm $f"?

Currently that has 348 hits in /www/gcc/htdocs/onlinedocs/libstdc++.

Gerald

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* Re: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3
  2010-06-13 22:40             ` Gerald Pfeifer
  2010-06-13 22:51               ` onlinedocs/libstdc++ apperas stale (was: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3) Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2010-06-13 23:24               ` Jonathan Wakely
  2010-06-14  0:05                 ` Jonathan Wakely
  2011-02-06 23:58                 ` Gerald Pfeifer
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Wakely @ 2010-06-13 23:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: libstdc++, gcc

On 13 June 2010 23:22, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
>> Thanks, see /home/gccadmin/scripts/update_web_docs_libstdcxx_svn
>
> I ran this script, and verified that it runs daily, 55 minutes after
> midnight UTC.  Alas, it seems the script does not lead to the desired
> result -- the libstdc++ onlinedocs/ pages appear stale.

Thanks for trying, I think Benjamin will have to take a look and see
what's wrong.

>>> And wouldn't it be appropriate to remove doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.2.xml now
>>> that you have added fdl-1.3.xml?
>> Possibly. We still have gpl-2.0.xml there, which doesn't seem to be
>> included.  I followed that example.
>
> If you are not using GPL 2.0 nor FDL 1.2 anymore in libstdc++ (and we
> should not be using these two anymore in all of GCC), we should remove
> them.  Would you mind doing that or should I give it a try?

I can do that, assuming no objections from the other maintainers.

Jonathan

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* Re: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3
  2010-06-13 23:24               ` [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3 Jonathan Wakely
@ 2010-06-14  0:05                 ` Jonathan Wakely
  2011-02-06 23:58                 ` Gerald Pfeifer
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Wakely @ 2010-06-14  0:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: libstdc++, gcc

On 14 June 2010 00:23, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> On 13 June 2010 23:22, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
>>> Thanks, see /home/gccadmin/scripts/update_web_docs_libstdcxx_svn
>>
>> I ran this script, and verified that it runs daily, 55 minutes after
>> midnight UTC.  Alas, it seems the script does not lead to the desired
>> result -- the libstdc++ onlinedocs/ pages appear stale.
>
> Thanks for trying, I think Benjamin will have to take a look and see
> what's wrong.

Ah, I've just seen your followup mail :-)

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread

* Re: onlinedocs/libstdc++ appears stale
  2010-06-13 23:23                 ` onlinedocs/libstdc++ appears stale Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2010-06-14  1:15                   ` Jonathan Wakely
  2010-07-15  9:55                     ` Gerald Pfeifer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Wakely @ 2010-06-14  1:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: libstdc++, gcc

On 13 June 2010 23:56, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
>>>> Thanks, see /home/gccadmin/scripts/update_web_docs_libstdcxx_svn
>> The script places up-to-date .html.gz files in the web infrastructure,
>> alas we do have older .html there -- and our web server is happy to
>> serve those over the compressed ones.
>>
>> In any case, we surely do not want to have _inconsistent_ versions of
>> the same contents there.
>
> Any objection to me running the following
>
>  find . -name '*.html' | while read f; do
>    g="$f.gz"
>    if [ -e "$g" ] && [ "$f" -ot "$g" ]; then
>      echo "$f is older than $g and should be removed."
>    fi
>  done
>
> where the echo is replaced by an "rm $f"?
>
> Currently that has 348 hits in /www/gcc/htdocs/onlinedocs/libstdc++.

That seems like the right thing to do.

I think it will leave some stale files in place, because the output of
generating the html docs creates different filenames sometimes, so
there won't be a new .gz for all the old files.  Those stale files
shouldn't be reachable from any fresh pages.

If you could send me a list of all the files remaining under that dir
after your command, I will let you know which can safely be removed
because they are stale and have been replaced by a new file with a
different name.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread

* Re: onlinedocs/libstdc++ apperas stale (was: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3)
  2010-06-13 22:51               ` onlinedocs/libstdc++ apperas stale (was: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3) Gerald Pfeifer
  2010-06-13 23:23                 ` onlinedocs/libstdc++ appears stale Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2010-07-14 23:51                 ` Benjamin Kosnik
  2010-07-24 16:51                   ` onlinedocs/libstdc++ appears stale Gerald Pfeifer
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Benjamin Kosnik @ 2010-07-14 23:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: gcc


> I guess what we should rather do is copying over the .html files from
> the temporary directory into the web tree and then do the compressing
> in the web tree.  But I assume you guys on the libstdc++ side are a
> lot more familiar with this, so it's your call.

I guess what we should rather do is just try to get libstdc++ docs
mainstreamed.

What I would really like is

http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/

to have 

# GCC 4.5.0 libstdc++ API Reference (also in PDF/PostScript/HTML)

link to
ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/libstdc++/doxygen/libstdc++-api-20100707.html.tar.bz2
ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/libstdc++/doxygen/libstdc++-api-20100707.pdf.bz2

# GCC 4.5.0 libstdc++ Manual (also in PDF/PostScript/HTML)
ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/libstdc++/doxygen/libstdc++-manual-20100707.html.tar.bz2
ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/libstdc++/doxygen/libstdc++-manual-20100707.pdf.bz2

etc.

(but for 4.5.x)

I would rather move to this structure for release documentation. And
then just have some nightly run on gcc.gnu.or on a properly configured
machine that just generates the documentation directly from the sources.

-benjamin

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread

* Re: onlinedocs/libstdc++ appears stale
  2010-06-14  1:15                   ` Jonathan Wakely
@ 2010-07-15  9:55                     ` Gerald Pfeifer
  2010-07-15  9:59                       ` Jonathan Wakely
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2010-07-15  9:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jonathan Wakely; +Cc: libstdc++, gcc

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First of all, apologies for not being able to follow up on this earlier.

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
>> Any objection to me running the following
>>
>>  find . -name '*.html' | while read f; do
>>    g="$f.gz"
>>    if [ -e "$g" ] && [ "$f" -ot "$g" ]; then
>>      echo "$f is older than $g and should be removed."
>>    fi
>>  done
>>
>> where the echo is replaced by an "rm $f"?
> That seems like the right thing to do.
> 
> I think it will leave some stale files in place, because the output of
> generating the html docs creates different filenames sometimes, so
> there won't be a new .gz for all the old files.  Those stale files
> shouldn't be reachable from any fresh pages.

I just did so and ran that script, and it removed 395 .html files where
the .html.gz version was newer than that (but our web server still served
the .html ones).  

Let me attach the list of files thusly removed.

> If you could send me a list of all the files remaining under that dir
> after your command, I will let you know which can safely be removed
> because they are stale and have been replaced by a new file with a
> different name.

Let me also attach the list of all files still under onlinedocs/libstdc++.


And now to the interesting part!  After this cleanup, gcc.gnu.org no 
longer serves any pages under onlinedocs/libstdc++, e.g.

  The requested URL /onlinedocs/libstdc++/api.html was not found on
  this server.

As a stop gap measure I ran the equivalent of

  find . -name '*.html.gz' -exec gunzip {} \;

excluding those pages where the .html version exists which, after the
first run above, means that the .html was the same time as the .html.gz.


How shall we address this for real?  Is it really worthwhile to manually
generate those .html.gz files for onlinedocs/libstdc++ or could we simply
omit that step?  Not sure it's really worth the hassles?

Gerald

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* Re: onlinedocs/libstdc++ appears stale
  2010-07-15  9:55                     ` Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2010-07-15  9:59                       ` Jonathan Wakely
  2010-07-18 20:53                         ` Gerald Pfeifer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Wakely @ 2010-07-15  9:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: libstdc++, gcc

On 15 July 2010 10:54, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
>
> How shall we address this for real?  Is it really worthwhile to manually
> generate those .html.gz files for onlinedocs/libstdc++ or could we simply
> omit that step?  Not sure it's really worth the hassles?

I have no idea why we gzip them, it certainly isn't saving any
diskspace if we end up with the .html *and* the .html.gz!

Benjamin has already started making some changes so that all the
libstdc++ docs can be generated automatically and put under
/onlinedocs as is done for the compiler docs.

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* Re: onlinedocs/libstdc++ appears stale
  2010-07-15  9:59                       ` Jonathan Wakely
@ 2010-07-18 20:53                         ` Gerald Pfeifer
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2010-07-18 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jonathan Wakely; +Cc: libstdc++, gcc

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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
>> How shall we address this for real?  Is it really worthwhile to 
>> manually generate those .html.gz files for onlinedocs/libstdc++ or 
>> could we simply omit that step?  Not sure it's really worth the 
>> hassles?
> I have no idea why we gzip them, it certainly isn't saving any
> diskspace if we end up with the .html *and* the .html.gz!

The fact that we have both is a "bug" from all I can tell, not by
design.

> Benjamin has already started making some changes so that all the
> libstdc++ docs can be generated automatically and put under
> /onlinedocs as is done for the compiler docs.

Ah, cool.  Benjamin, if there is any way I can help, let me know!

Gerald

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* Re: onlinedocs/libstdc++ appears stale
  2010-07-14 23:51                 ` onlinedocs/libstdc++ apperas stale (was: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3) Benjamin Kosnik
@ 2010-07-24 16:51                   ` Gerald Pfeifer
  2010-07-27 16:26                     ` Benjamin Kosnik
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2010-07-24 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Benjamin Kosnik; +Cc: gcc

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010, Benjamin Kosnik wrote:
> I would rather move to this structure for release documentation. And
> then just have some nightly run on gcc.gnu.or on a properly configured
> machine that just generates the documentation directly from the sources.

gcc.gnu.org will be preferrable, I think.  That allows a number of us
to help out if neede, re-running scripts, etc.

For the time  being I suggest to apply the patch below, though.  What we
have in place as of today simply is broken (and has been for quarters,
at a minimum).

Objections?

Gerald

Index: update_web_docs_libstdcxx_svn
===================================================================
--- update_web_docs_libstdcxx_svn	(revision 162499)
+++ update_web_docs_libstdcxx_svn	(working copy)
@@ -37,11 +37,6 @@
 cd doc
 rm -f Makefile
 
-# build a compressed copy of the HTML, preserve directory structure
-for file in `find . -name "*.html" -print`; do
-    gzip --best < $file > $file.gz
-done
-
 # copy the tree to the onlinedocs area, preserve directory structure
 #find . -depth -print | cpio -pdv $WWWDIR
 find . -depth -print | cpio -pd $WWWDIR > /dev/null 2>&1

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* Re: onlinedocs/libstdc++ appears stale
  2010-07-24 16:51                   ` onlinedocs/libstdc++ appears stale Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2010-07-27 16:26                     ` Benjamin Kosnik
  2010-08-01 21:37                       ` Gerald Pfeifer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Benjamin Kosnik @ 2010-07-27 16:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: gcc


> gcc.gnu.org will be preferrable, I think.  That allows a number of us
> to help out if neede, re-running scripts, etc.

Right. The Makefiles are set up for this now.
 
> For the time  being I suggest to apply the patch below, though.  What
> we have in place as of today simply is broken (and has been for
> quarters, at a minimum).
> 
> Objections?

OK

-benjamin

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* Re: onlinedocs/libstdc++ appears stale
  2010-07-27 16:26                     ` Benjamin Kosnik
@ 2010-08-01 21:37                       ` Gerald Pfeifer
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2010-08-01 21:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Benjamin Kosnik; +Cc: gcc

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Benjamin Kosnik wrote:
>> gcc.gnu.org will be preferrable, I think.  That allows a number of us
>> to help out if neede, re-running scripts, etc.
> Right. The Makefiles are set up for this now.

Cool.

>> For the time  being I suggest to apply the patch below, though.  What
>> we have in place as of today simply is broken (and has been for
>> quarters, at a minimum).
> OK

Done, also updated on gcc.gnu.org, and removed all .gz files from
onlinedocs/libstdc++ (verifying that old had naked .html versions
as well).

Gerald

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* Re: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3
  2010-06-13 23:24               ` [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3 Jonathan Wakely
  2010-06-14  0:05                 ` Jonathan Wakely
@ 2011-02-06 23:58                 ` Gerald Pfeifer
  2011-02-07  0:07                   ` Jonathan Wakely
  2011-02-08  9:47                   ` Jonathan Wakely
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2011-02-06 23:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jonathan Wakely; +Cc: libstdc++, gcc

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On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
>>>> And wouldn't it be appropriate to remove doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.2.xml now
>>>> that you have added fdl-1.3.xml?
>>> Possibly. We still have gpl-2.0.xml there, which doesn't seem to be
>>> included.  I followed that example.
>>
>> If you are not using GPL 2.0 nor FDL 1.2 anymore in libstdc++ (and we
>> should not be using these two anymore in all of GCC), we should remove
>> them.  Would you mind doing that or should I give it a try?
> I can do that, assuming no objections from the other maintainers.

Hmm, I see that these two are still in there.  We should not be 
using them anymore.  Would you mind removing them, or do you see
a problem?

(It would be good to make the same change for GCC 4.5 as well.)

Thanks,
Gerald

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* Re: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3
  2011-02-06 23:58                 ` Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2011-02-07  0:07                   ` Jonathan Wakely
  2011-02-08  9:47                   ` Jonathan Wakely
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Wakely @ 2011-02-07  0:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: libstdc++, gcc

On 6 February 2011 23:57, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
>>>>> And wouldn't it be appropriate to remove doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.2.xml now
>>>>> that you have added fdl-1.3.xml?
>>>> Possibly. We still have gpl-2.0.xml there, which doesn't seem to be
>>>> included.  I followed that example.
>>>
>>> If you are not using GPL 2.0 nor FDL 1.2 anymore in libstdc++ (and we
>>> should not be using these two anymore in all of GCC), we should remove
>>> them.  Would you mind doing that or should I give it a try?
>> I can do that, assuming no objections from the other maintainers.
>
> Hmm, I see that these two are still in there.  We should not be
> using them anymore.  Would you mind removing them, or do you see
> a problem?
>
> (It would be good to make the same change for GCC 4.5 as well.)

Ah sorry, I think I forgot about it, I'll do it tomorrow.

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* Re: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3
  2011-02-06 23:58                 ` Gerald Pfeifer
  2011-02-07  0:07                   ` Jonathan Wakely
@ 2011-02-08  9:47                   ` Jonathan Wakely
  2011-02-08 20:41                     ` Jonathan Wakely
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Wakely @ 2011-02-08  9:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: libstdc++, gcc, gcc-patches

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On 6 February 2011 23:57, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
>>>>> And wouldn't it be appropriate to remove doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.2.xml now
>>>>> that you have added fdl-1.3.xml?
>>>> Possibly. We still have gpl-2.0.xml there, which doesn't seem to be
>>>> included.  I followed that example.
>>>
>>> If you are not using GPL 2.0 nor FDL 1.2 anymore in libstdc++ (and we
>>> should not be using these two anymore in all of GCC), we should remove
>>> them.  Would you mind doing that or should I give it a try?
>> I can do that, assuming no objections from the other maintainers.
>
> Hmm, I see that these two are still in there.  We should not be
> using them anymore.  Would you mind removing them, or do you see
> a problem?
>
> (It would be good to make the same change for GCC 4.5 as well.)
>
> Thanks,
> Gerald

Done for trunk, r169915, like so:

2011-02-08  Jonathan Wakely  <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>

	* doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.2.xml: Remove.
	* doc/xml/gnu/gpl-2.0.xml: Remove.
	* doc/Makefile.am: Update.
	* doc/Makefile.in: Regnerate.

Tested with 'make doc-html'

I'll do the same for the 4.5 branch later today.

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Index: doc/Makefile.am
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--- doc/Makefile.am	(revision 169914)
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Index: doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.2.xml
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* Re: [doc,patch] Move from GFDL 1.2 to GFDL 1.3
  2011-02-08  9:47                   ` Jonathan Wakely
@ 2011-02-08 20:41                     ` Jonathan Wakely
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Wakely @ 2011-02-08 20:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: libstdc++, gcc, gcc-patches

On 8 February 2011 09:47, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> On 6 February 2011 23:57, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
>>>>>> And wouldn't it be appropriate to remove doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.2.xml now
>>>>>> that you have added fdl-1.3.xml?
>>>>> Possibly. We still have gpl-2.0.xml there, which doesn't seem to be
>>>>> included.  I followed that example.
>>>>
>>>> If you are not using GPL 2.0 nor FDL 1.2 anymore in libstdc++ (and we
>>>> should not be using these two anymore in all of GCC), we should remove
>>>> them.  Would you mind doing that or should I give it a try?
>>> I can do that, assuming no objections from the other maintainers.
>>
>> Hmm, I see that these two are still in there.  We should not be
>> using them anymore.  Would you mind removing them, or do you see
>> a problem?
>>
>> (It would be good to make the same change for GCC 4.5 as well.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gerald
>
> Done for trunk, r169915, like so:
>
> 2011-02-08  Jonathan Wakely  <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>
>
>        * doc/xml/gnu/fdl-1.2.xml: Remove.
>        * doc/xml/gnu/gpl-2.0.xml: Remove.
>        * doc/Makefile.am: Update.
>        * doc/Makefile.in: Regnerate.
>
> Tested with 'make doc-html'
>
> I'll do the same for the 4.5 branch later today.

In rev 169944 I've now removed gpl-2.0.xml from the 4.5 branch (we
only have fdl-1.2 there, not 1.3, so I left that)

011-02-08  Jonathan Wakely  <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>

        * doc/xml/gnu/gpl-2.0.xml: Remove.
        * doc/Makefile.am: Update.
        * doc/Makefile.in: Regenerate.

I've also fixed the "Regnerate" typo in my previous ChangeLog entry.

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