From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ej1-x62a.google.com (mail-ej1-x62a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62a]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 965B53851C0D for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 12:08:44 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 965B53851C0D Received: by mail-ej1-x62a.google.com with SMTP id r9so31037645ejj.3 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 05:08:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:cc:from :message-id; bh=kMqq2g+71JKP1jtSouhuv+hGxgJhn6sJ7lZkV/R9FTc=; b=KATXBMaa6+5xDNKMMgRG3YK5AgemBO0ugtYOten3tq36jXc375ilM+4i42YE4FVoPT M4tjqEzuFkDUQcn7kb2KVWOASYMh7Y0iPgjwz4Vhr0/AIvPXg0VtIViPqj16wjAUJljy RmrxF3WV03ZtQf7mEFLm/ijjjsb794iCVTN/3TzF/KwGm/Db0fyEaqp5XqE0lOKHRRTg n6atIt8woDiGBTJSU+3VwCohjjYu49PpK/bS5syPKe5PJ4Nj+Fq25xzQNdZTPmFUoOd8 Wif+RkspwkLYEugqU+rZvcyPEE/RG+Nm9FtQlpyHuPdBsJ2dq36QXTHmFRZdFRT9T8vS v82A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533YQ76rG9qvUZcjYN4UhQAamJGmk5agBHWQko91E8egOGuNLojK kU1AR3uzcJv7QFVkGQCK5iU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxYMM/yk8DInvgFtq2lNrZEJynzIUQK9nwC+MZFSER5K8C3SlJmPsuh6dyVwT28EeOrJTm2kw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:7d82:: with SMTP id v2mr37684721ejo.524.1618402123656; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 05:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.32] (dynamic-095-117-025-024.95.117.pool.telefonica.de. [95.117.25.24]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id hd37sm9103830ejc.114.2021.04.14.05.08.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 14 Apr 2021 05:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 14:08:41 +0200 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <87y2dplyy5.fsf@googlemail.com> <5ce167be-d5ea-1261-9238-4ee1c6a2150b@hesbynett.no> <81abf7b0-cc9e-78d3-c254-8581bce8edd6@gmail.com> <1b73a3d2-4e7e-d226-ccc6-5002997b1ea0@netcologne.de> <4d1e7a20-5b8e-3cf5-84a2-54414e348d3a@gmail.com> <2d64cd98-91ce-06c0-de31-fc0366d9651c@netcologne.de> <88a60988-8f65-d1b2-f822-f223fa180a6d@gmail.com> <6fcc2383-8bc3-6cd9-0f8c-567048511ba7@netcologne.de> <08ac68f3-17a5-fb70-3894-090a122a2dea@netcologne.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF To: Jonathan Wakely , Jonathan Wakely via Gcc , Thomas Koenig CC: gcc mailing list From: Richard Biener Message-ID: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gcc@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 12:08:46 -0000 On April 14, 2021 12:19:16 PM GMT+02:00, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc wrote: >N=2EB=2E Jeff is no longer @redhat=2Ecom so I've changed the CC > >On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 11:03, Thomas Koenig >wrote: >> - All gfortran developers move to the new branch=2E This will not >> happen, I can guarantee you that=2E > >This is the part I'm curious about (the rest is obvious, it follows >from there being finite resources and the nature of any fork)=2E But I'm >not going to press for reasons=2E Note the only viable fork will be on the current hosting (which isn't FSF = controlled) with the downside of eventually losing the gcc=2Egnu=2Eorg DNS = and thus a need to "switch" to a sourceware=2Eorg name=2E=20 Given there would be actual work involved on the FSF side to keep a "fork"= with the exact same setup (and thus transparent with existing setups) I do= n't see it keeping live (but I see somebody populating savannah with source= s)=2E=20 Richard=2E=20 Richard=2E=20