From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25844 invoked by alias); 8 Dec 2003 18:24:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 25799 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2003 18:24:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-out4.apple.com) (17.254.13.23) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2003 18:24:48 -0000 Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (a17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out4.apple.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB8IOlnc023049 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from scv3.apple.com (scv3.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:24:43 -0800 Received: from [17.201.20.186] (gambrinus.apple.com [17.201.20.186]) by scv3.apple.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB8IO90m026096; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:24:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <10312081632.AA11626@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu> References: <10312081632.AA11626@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-258865281 Message-Id: Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, pkoning@equallogic.com, Dale Johannesen From: Dale Johannesen Subject: Re: Name of front-end Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 18:37:00 -0000 To: kenner@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu (Richard Kenner) X-SW-Source: 2003-12/txt/msg00537.txt.bz2 --Apple-Mail-1-258865281 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-length: 546 On Dec 8, 2003, at 8:32 AM, Richard Kenner wrote: > FWIW, some IBM 360 PL/1 manuals I just looked at do not mark or > claim > "PL/1" as trademark. > > But certainly some did. And contemporary lore was that they > trademarked PL/2, > PL/3, etc ... I've heard this also, but it may well be a myth. Here http://www-3.ibm.com/software/data/ims/v5pdf/DFSI10C6.PDF. is an IBM manual, which talks about PL/I and contains a list of IBM trademarks (p. 13 according to Acrobat, or xi according to the document), and PL/I is not one of them. --Apple-Mail-1-258865281 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Content-length: 710 On Dec 8, 2003, at 8:32 AM, Richard Kenner wrote: FWIW, some IBM 360 PL/1 manuals I just looked at do not mark or claim "PL/1" as trademark. But certainly some did. And contemporary lore was that they trademarked PL/2, PL/3, etc ... I've heard this also, but it may well be a myth. Here Arial0000,0000,FFFFhttp://www-3.ibm.com/software/data/ims/v5pdf/DFSI10C6.PDF. is an IBM manual, which talks about PL/I and contains a list of IBM trademarks (p. 13 according to Acrobat, or xi according to the document), and PL/I is not one of them. --Apple-Mail-1-258865281--