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Tue, 22 Feb 2022 21:26:38 +0000 From: Gary Oblock To: Andras Tantos , "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" Subject: Re: Benchmark recommendations needed Thread-Topic: Benchmark recommendations needed Thread-Index: AQHYJtHJHGy7OV36zkOJ9upTW4JzsKyfCtqAgAEKivo= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 21:26:38 +0000 Message-ID: References: <33a21357ddb10b187935cf4ea269bb5a7a800c1d.camel@tantosonline.com> In-Reply-To: <33a21357ddb10b187935cf4ea269bb5a7a800c1d.camel@tantosonline.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: suggested_attachment_session_id: bbdf131c-cfb2-1a07-1f8f-084fddd606ab x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 1eaab319-fdad-4c99-1a7c-08d9f64a02df x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: DM8PR01MB6966:EE_ x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1 x-ms-exchange-antispam-relay: 0 x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: 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 x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:255.255.255.255; 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: gcc@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 21:26:44 -0000 Andras, The whole point of benchmarks is to judge a processor's performance. That being said, just crippling GCC is not reasonable because processors must be judged in the appropriate context and that includes the current state of the art compiler technology. If you have a new processor I'd benchmark it using the applications you built it for. Gary ________________________________ From: Andras Tantos Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 9:22 PM To: Gary Oblock ; gcc@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: Benchmark recommendations needed [EXTERNAL EMAIL NOTICE: This email originated from an external sender. Plea= se be mindful of safe email handling and proprietary information protection= practices.] That's true, I did notice GCC being rather ... peculiar about drhystone. Is there a way to make it less clever about the benchmark? Or is there some alteration to the benchmark I can make to not trigger the special behavior in GCC? Andras On Mon, 2022-02-21 at 03:19 +0000, Gary Oblock via Gcc wrote: > Trying to use the dhrystone isn't going to be very useful. It has > many downsides not the least is that gcc's optimizer can run rings > about it. > > Gary > > ________________________________ > From: Gcc on > behalf of gcc-request@gcc.gnu.org > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 6:25 AM > To: gcc@gcc.gnu.org > Subject: Re: > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL NOTICE: This email originated from an external > sender. Please be mindful of safe email handling and proprietary > information protection practices.] > > > Send Gcc mailing list submissions to > gcc@gcc.gnu.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://gcc.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gcc > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > gcc-request@gcc.gnu.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Gcc digest..."