From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26917 invoked by alias); 1 Feb 2003 00:00:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 26821 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 00:00:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-out2.apple.com) (17.254.0.51) by 172.16.49.205 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 00:00:47 -0000 Received: from mailgate2.apple.com (A17-129-100-225.apple.com [17.129.100.225]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h1100kI17583 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:00:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from scv2.apple.com (scv2.apple.com) by mailgate2.apple.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:00:42 -0800 Received: from apple.com (mrs1.apple.com [17.201.24.248]) by scv2.apple.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h1100gQ28702; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:00:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Re: GCC 3.3, GCC 3.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Cc: kenner@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu, mark@codesourcery.com, gcc@gcc.gnu.org To: Tom Lord From: Mike Stump In-Reply-To: <200301312258.OAA14911@emf.net> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2003-02/txt/msg00000.txt.bz2 On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 02:58 PM, Tom Lord wrote: > No, problem (2), the funding situation, is the root problem. > Mark, SC -- it's time to put your foot down. Let's not get bogged down in a flame fest over this. Let's just say that some of us disagree. I will say that the gcc model is working and does go through refinements from time to time. Use your model on arch, and tell us how well it works. After you have a success, try it on another project, and so on, and eventually, we will say, wow, look how well that model works, let use it. Don't try and beat us into using it, we won't come around that way. So, how many projects use your model and are successes because of it?