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From: Iain Sandoe <idsandoe@googlemail.com>
To: Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
Cc: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	Michael Meissner <meissner@linux.ibm.com>,
	Paul Thomas <pault@gcc.gnu.org>,
	Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
	GCC Development <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
	fortran@gcc.gnu.org, Tobias Burnus <tobias@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: libgfortran.so SONAME and powerpc64le-linux ABI changes
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 00:18:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C8477E9D-176D-4D7C-9EE8-421D23768DAA@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e6004e4f-ed78-9e0b-8b84-6782d28c2338@netcologne.de>



> On 8 Oct 2021, at 23:55, Thomas Koenig via Gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Iain,
> 
>>> Things get interesting for user code, calling a routine compiled
>>> for double double with newer IEEE QP will result in breakage.
>> That would not happen with the proposal above, since the library would
>> have different entry points for the two formats.
> 
> I meant the case where the user writes, with an old, KIND=16 is double
> double compiler,
> 
>  subroutine foo(a)
>    real(kind=16) :: a
>    a = a + 1._16
>  end subroutine foo
> 
> and puts it in a library or an old object file, and in new code with an
> IEEE QP compiler calls that with
> 
>  real(kind=16) :: a
>  a = 2._16
>  call foo(a)
>  print *,a
> 
> this will result in silent generation of garbage values, since Fortran
> does not mangle the function name based on it types. For both cases, the
> subroutine will be called foo_  (or MOD..._foo).

hmm, well I thought about that case, but  … isn’t this “pilot error”?

if one compiles different parts of a project with incompatible command line options…

… or, say, compile with -mavx512 and then try to run code on hardware without
such a vector unit?

Getting wrong answers silently can likely be done with other command line
option mismatches.

Iain

> There is no choice - we need to make object code compiled by the user
> incompatible between the old and the new format on the systems where
> we make the switch.
> 
> This is starting to look like a can of worms from Pandora's box,
> if you pardon my mixed metaphors.

> 
> Best regards
> 
> 	Thomas


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-08 23:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-04 10:07 Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 11:24 ` Richard Biener
2021-10-04 11:36   ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 12:31     ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 14:14 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 16:47   ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-04 18:33   ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-04 19:24     ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-05 17:43       ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-14 19:39         ` Bill Schmidt
2021-10-15  0:26           ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-05 20:16   ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-05 21:54     ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06  6:59       ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-06 15:17         ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 15:41           ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-06 16:07             ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 16:34               ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-06 16:59                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 17:07                   ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-06 17:50                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 19:30                       ` Peter Bergner
2021-10-06 17:13                 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-06 18:39                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 19:42                     ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-06 20:57                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 21:55                         ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-06 22:03                         ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-08 17:53                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-11 20:11                             ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-15  0:16                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 15:42           ` David Edelsohn
2021-10-06 16:19             ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 17:38               ` David Edelsohn
2021-10-07  3:42           ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-08 21:10             ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-07  9:48         ` Alastair McKinstry
2021-10-07  9:56           ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-07 10:01             ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-07 12:43               ` Alastair McKinstry
2021-10-05 21:53   ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-10-07  3:35 ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-07  6:08   ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-07  9:40     ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-07 15:24     ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-07 15:33       ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-08  6:35         ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-08  7:20           ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-08 16:26             ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-08 19:11               ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-08 22:55                 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-08 23:18                   ` Iain Sandoe [this message]
2021-10-09  9:11                     ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-09  9:19                       ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-09  9:25                       ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-09  7:44                   ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-10 16:14                     ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-15 13:50 ` Bill Schmidt
2021-10-15 14:20   ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-15 18:05     ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-15 18:11       ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-15 18:58         ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-15 22:24     ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-15 22:36   ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-18 19:02   ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-28  3:10 ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-29  3:36 ` libgfortran.so SONAME and powerpc64le-linux ABI changes (work in progress patches) Michael Meissner
2021-10-29 19:07   ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-29 21:06     ` Michael Meissner
2021-11-01 15:56       ` Bill Schmidt
2021-11-02 15:40         ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-30  0:16 ` libgfortran.so SONAME and powerpc64le-linux ABI changes (2nd patch) Michael Meissner
2021-10-30  9:30   ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-30 10:03     ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-30 10:31       ` Thomas Koenig

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