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From: Wei Mi <wmi@google.com>
To: Xinliang David Li <davidxl@google.com>
Cc: Jan Hubicka <hubicka@ucw.cz>, "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
	 Eugene Rozenfeld <Eugene.Rozenfeld@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: State of AutoFDO in GCC
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 21:22:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+4CFy44sMNCM1eEC_Q5BfZB1fFoeoK795uG1tqbcRXz7W9rgg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAkRFZLfGd3WStyQ6beJXb4PaTm1PjdYwVBoit2ijbn5r-n_xQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 4:18 PM Xinliang David Li <davidxl@google.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 12:07 PM Jan Hubicka <hubicka@ucw.cz> wrote:
>
>> David,
>> >
>> > The text format is documented here:
>> > https://clang.llvm.org/docs/UsersManual.html
>> > The binary format is not documented. The binary format is not
>> guaranteed to
>> > be backward compatible, so sharing the same format may not be the best
>> way
>> > as changes for clang may break GCC.
>> >
>> > Since linux perf format does not change, the tool should be relatively
>> > stable with low maintenance cost. Changes are needed only when some new
>> > AutoFDO features are added to the compiler side.
>>
>> I was under impression that it is indeed problem with the tool requiring
>> old format of linux perf. At least with opensuse distro the shipped tool
>> fails for me:
>> jan@skylake:~> create_llvm_prof --binary=./code --out=code.prof
>> E0425 21:01:55.038128 17977 perf_reader.cc:996] Unsupported event type
>> 79
>> F0425 21:01:55.038295 17977 perf_parser.cc:240] Check failed:
>> reader_.ReadPerfSampleInfo(*parsed_event.raw_event, &sample_info)
>> *** Check failure stack trace: ***
>>     @     0x55e6deb6058e  (unknown)
>>     @     0x55e6deb94a49  (unknown)
>>     ..
>>     Aborted (core dumped)
>>
>> I collect data as intstructed here:
>> https://clang.llvm.org/docs/UsersManual.html
>>
>> It is from package autofdo-0.18-4.4.x86_64 and perf 5.11.15.
>>
>> Is there a way to get this working w/o using older perf?
>> Honza
>> >
>
>
> Interesting. That means we will also see the same error when using the
> latest perf.
>
> Wei, are you aware of the issue?
>
> David
>
>
>
My local perf is 4.13 so I cannot look at the problem. I remember we has
fixed such problem in quipper before. Could you try the latest version of
autofdo (using the guideline here: https://github.com/google/autofdo#readme)?
autofdo-0.18 is an old version and it is using an old quipper.

Thanks,
Wei.



>
>
>
>>
>> > Does LLVM's auto-FDO support non-Intel CPUs these days?
>> > >
>> >
>> > It supports LBR like events, so it is CPU vendor dependent. For ARM,
>> using
>> > ETM can achieve the goal, but I don't have detailed knowledge of it.
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Honza
>> > > >
>> > > > David
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Honza
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > David
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > > Honza
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > David
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > Thoughts?
>> > > > >> > > > > Martin
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > Having the tool third-party makes keeping the whole
>> chain
>> > > > >> working
>> > > > >> > > more
>> > > > >> > > > > > difficult.
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > Richard.
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks,
>> > > > >> > > > > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > >> David
>> > > > >> > > > > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > >> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 3:29 PM Jan Hubicka <
>> > > hubicka@ucw.cz>
>> > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>> On 4/22/21 9:58 PM, Eugene Rozenfeld via Gcc wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> GCC documentation for AutoFDO points to
>> create_gcov tool
>> > > > >> that
>> > > > >> > > > > converts
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> perf.data file into gcov format that can be consumed
>> by
>> > > gcc
>> > > > >> with
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> -fauto-profile (
>> > > > >> > > > > https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Optimize-Options.html
>> ,
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/AutoFDO/Tutorial).
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> I noticed that the source code for create_gcov has
>> been
>> > > > >> deleted
>> > > > >> > > from
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> https://github.com/google/autofdo on April 7. I
>> asked
>> > > about
>> > > > >> that
>> > > > >> > > > > change
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> in that repo and got the following reply:
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >> > >
>> https://github.com/google/autofdo/pull/107#issuecomment-819108738
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> "Actually we didn't use create_gcov and havn't
>> updated
>> > > > >> > > create_gcov
>> > > > >> > > > > for
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> years, and we also didn't have enough tests to
>> guarantee
>> > > it
>> > > > >> works
>> > > > >> > > (It
>> > > > >> > > > > was
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> gcc-4.8 when we used and verified create_gcov). If
>> you
>> > > need
>> > > > >> it, it
>> > > > >> > > is
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> welcomed to update create_gcov and add it to the
>> > > respository."
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> Does this mean that AutoFDO is currently dead in
>> gcc?
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>> Hello.
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>> Yes. I know that even basic test cases have been
>> broken
>> > > for
>> > > > >> years
>> > > > >> > > in
>> > > > >> > > > > the
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> GCC.
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>> It's new to me that create_gcov was removed.
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>> I tend to send patch to GCC that will remove
>> AutoFDO from
>> > > > >> GCC.
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>> I known Bin spent some time working on AutoFDO, has
>> he
>> > > came
>> > > > >> up to
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> something?
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> The GCC side of auto-FDO is not that hard.  We have
>> most
>> > > of
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> infrastructure in place, but stopping point for me
>> was
>> > > always
>> > > > >> > > > > difficulty
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> to get gcov-tool working.  If some maintainer steps
>> up, I
>> > > > >> think I
>> > > > >> > > can
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> fix GCC side.
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> I am bit unsure how important feature it is - we
>> have FDO
>> > > that
>> > > > >> > > works
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> quite well for most users but I know there are some
>> users
>> > > of
>> > > > >> the
>> > > > >> > > LLVM
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> implementation and there is potential to tie this
>> with
>> > > other
>> > > > >> > > hardware
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> events to asist i.e. if conversion (where one wants
>> to
>> > > know
>> > > > >> how
>> > > > >> > > well
>> > > > >> > > > > CPU
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> predicts the jump rather than just the jump
>> probability)
>> > > > >> which I
>> > > > >> > > always
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> found potentially interesting.
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>
>> > > > >> > > > > >>> Honza
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>> Martin
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> Thanks,
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>> Eugene
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > >>>
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > >
>>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-26  4:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-22 19:58 Eugene Rozenfeld
2021-04-22 20:16 ` Martin Liška
2021-04-22 22:29   ` Jan Hubicka
2021-04-23  4:14     ` Xinliang David Li
2021-04-23  7:00       ` Richard Biener
2021-04-23  7:18         ` Martin Liška
2021-04-23  9:32           ` Richard Biener
2021-04-23 16:41           ` Xinliang David Li
2021-04-23 16:54             ` Jan Hubicka
2021-04-23 17:04               ` Xinliang David Li
2021-04-23 17:16                 ` Jan Hubicka
2021-04-23 17:27                   ` Xinliang David Li
2021-04-23 17:28                     ` Xinliang David Li
2021-04-23 19:28                       ` Jan Hubicka
2021-04-23 19:58                         ` Xinliang David Li
2021-04-25 19:07                           ` Jan Hubicka
2021-04-25 23:18                             ` Xinliang David Li
2021-04-26  4:22                               ` Wei Mi [this message]
2021-04-26 15:11                             ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-26 16:57                               ` Xinliang David Li
2021-04-26 18:00                                 ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-26 18:05                                   ` Xinliang David Li
2021-04-26 18:40                                     ` Hongtao Yu
2021-04-26 19:13                                       ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-29  5:40                                       ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-29 14:45                                         ` 172060045
2021-04-30 21:43                                           ` Andi Kleen
2021-05-08 11:25                                             ` 172060045
2021-05-09 16:28                                               ` Andi Kleen
2021-05-09 17:01                                                 ` Jan Hubicka
2021-05-10 15:36                                                   ` Andi Kleen
2021-05-10 16:55                                                     ` Joseph Myers
2021-05-10 17:21                                                       ` Andi Kleen
2022-07-26 20:12                                                         ` Eugene Rozenfeld
2022-07-26 22:37                                                           ` David Edelsohn
2022-07-27  7:26                                                             ` Jan Hubicka
2022-07-27 18:30                                                               ` [EXTERNAL] " Eugene Rozenfeld
2022-07-27 18:24                                                             ` Eugene Rozenfeld
2022-07-27  1:31                                                           ` Xionghu Luo
2022-07-27  1:41                                                             ` Xionghu Luo
2022-07-27 18:38                                                               ` [EXTERNAL] " Eugene Rozenfeld
2021-05-10 23:46                                         ` Wei Mi
2021-05-22  1:28                                           ` [EXTERNAL] " Eugene Rozenfeld
2021-05-22 16:36                                             ` Wei Mi
2021-05-25  1:39                                               ` Eugene Rozenfeld
2021-05-25  3:11                                                 ` Wei Mi
2021-05-25  3:33                                                   ` Eugene Rozenfeld
2021-05-25  3:54                                                     ` Wei Mi
2021-05-25  7:01                                                       ` Eugene Rozenfeld
2021-05-25 16:16                                                         ` Wei Mi
2021-05-25 20:49                                                           ` Eugene Rozenfeld
2021-05-26  3:06                                                             ` Wei Mi
2021-05-26 23:39                                                               ` Eugene Rozenfeld
2021-05-27  2:51                                                                 ` Wei Mi
2021-06-12  1:14                                                                   ` Eugene Rozenfeld
2021-06-14 17:00                                                                     ` Wei Mi
2021-04-23 17:20           ` Jan Hubicka
2021-04-23 16:36         ` Xinliang David Li
2021-04-30 18:48           ` [EXTERNAL] " Eugene Rozenfeld
2021-04-30 21:45             ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-24 21:45               ` Eugene Rozenfeld
2021-04-23  1:46   ` Bin.Cheng

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