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From: Gabriel Dos Reis <gdr@integrable-solutions.net>
To: Basile Starynkevitch <basile@starynkevitch.net>
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: adding destroyable objects into Ggc
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:14:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAiZkiB=iFbfjLw5iuWV_1tiQKGdjO2YxOx4gC8on0JvYixXDQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111019082210.3834624fc4dc8734fd6337c6@starynkevitch.net>

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Basile Starynkevitch
<basile@starynkevitch.net> wrote:

> I do think that the fact that some other big free software starts by explaining how to
> manage their memory is significant.

Storage management is important.  However, I believe it is a mistake to
focus only on that or to start the presentation of a project with that.
No matter how popular it is.

> I also agree with you that GCC architecture is messy, and that scares newscomer a lot.
>

Yes, but the way we improve it isn't, in my opinion, adding more GC.
First we would like to remove complexity, and I do not think we should
start by focusing on storage management until we get a clearer idea
about lifetime of data structures we manipulate and how they mesh.
We might find out (as I suspect) that the builtin GC of C (or C++) is
remarkable at the job, provided we have a design that makes the
lifetime obvious and take advantage of it.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-19  6:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-18 16:35 Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 16:43 ` Duncan Sands
2011-10-18 16:53   ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 17:11 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-10-18 17:14   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-18 17:20   ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 17:36     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-10-18 17:41   ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 17:50     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-10-18 17:53       ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 18:03         ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-18 18:11         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-10-18 19:41           ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 20:52           ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-18 19:50         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-18 23:11           ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-19  0:49             ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-18 19:46     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-19  6:04     ` Chiheng Xu
2011-10-19  6:08       ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-19  6:43         ` Chiheng Xu
2011-10-19  6:12       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-19  6:17         ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-19  6:22         ` Chiheng Xu
     [not found]         ` <20111019080021.4e1acb3687fc8ceacc2fd7a3@starynkevitch.net>
     [not found]           ` <CAAiZkiB-aXfE8MyY_S6YvecdxgsBnuBHp3JDWx4kirVkQx8w+A@mail.gmail.com>
2011-10-19  7:41             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-19  7:43             ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-19 12:14               ` Gabriel Dos Reis [this message]
2011-10-19 13:31                 ` Duncan Sands
2011-10-19 22:19                   ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-19 15:06         ` David Malcolm
2011-10-20  6:03       ` Lawrence Crowl
2011-10-20  8:29         ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20  8:37           ` Marc Glisse
2011-10-20  8:38             ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20 11:57               ` Marc Glisse
2011-10-20 12:10                 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20 15:34                   ` Marc Glisse
2011-10-21  9:03                     ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-21 12:24                       ` Marc Glisse
2011-10-21 12:28                       ` Richard Guenther
2011-10-21 23:53                         ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-22  1:31                           ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-22 11:20                             ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-23 13:50                           ` Richard Guenther
2011-10-19 15:56     ` Laurynas Biveinis
2011-10-19 16:54       ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20  8:52         ` Laurynas Biveinis
2011-10-20 12:27           ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20 12:51             ` Andrew Haley
2011-10-20 14:07               ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20 13:10             ` Duncan Sands
2011-10-20 14:52               ` Torvald Riegel
2011-10-20 15:14             ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-20 15:26               ` Richard Guenther
2011-10-20 17:23               ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20 18:38                 ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-18 18:39 ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-18 18:48   ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 19:42     ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-18 19:45       ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 22:43         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-18 21:24     ` Gabriel Dos Reis

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