From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14068 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 2012 14:25:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 14050 invoked by uid 22791); 5 Apr 2012 14:25:54 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,FREEMAIL_FROM,KHOP_RCVD_TRUST,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mail-ob0-f175.google.com (HELO mail-ob0-f175.google.com) (209.85.214.175) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 14:25:36 +0000 Received: by obbuo13 with SMTP id uo13so1976260obb.20 for ; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:25:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.121.40 with SMTP id lh8mr4240132obb.37.1333635935729; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.92.168 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 07:25:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201204051345.12172.ebotcazou@adacore.com> References: <20120404183438.CCA083BE18@mailhost.lps.ens.fr> <201204050056.59867.ebotcazou@adacore.com> <201204051345.12172.ebotcazou@adacore.com> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 14:25:00 -0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RFC: -Wall by default From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Eric Botcazou Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, Dominique Dhumieres , law@redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org X-SW-Source: 2012-04/txt/msg00199.txt.bz2 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Eric Botcazou wrote: >> From developer perspective, we think that -Wall is so simple to >> remember, because >> in fact, we are used to handle so many complex things that this one five >> letter is nothing. =A0However, users aren't as sophisticated as we would= like >> them to (I am not being condescending.) =A0The way we have to approach t= his >> is how can we satisfy persistent demands and still remain competitive. > > I personally don't buy the "can't remember" argument. At least, on three occasions this week, it was made to me in person by comp= etent people (the last was "I forgot what actually is doing"). These people use several tools for programming, including several compilers.