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From: Jason Merrill <jason@redhat.com>
To: "Richard Earnshaw (lists)" <Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com>
Cc: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Eric Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com>, 	Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>,
	GCC Development <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Commit messages and the move to git
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 14:57:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADzB+2nPi_Vt-72D_TDzuqN86+HE9ANsMbhMsOkCWRSVWHdjVA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c11d0e89-ac80-5600-276c-397531f0417c@arm.com>

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 4:38 PM Richard Earnshaw (lists) <
Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com> wrote:

> On 18/11/2019 20:53, Jason Merrill wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 2:51 PM Segher Boessenkool <
> > segher@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 07:21:22PM +0000, Richard Earnshaw (lists)
> wrote:
> >>> On 18/11/2019 18:53, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> >>>> PR target/92140: clang vs gcc optimizing with adc/sbb
> >>>> PR fortran/91926: assumed rank optional
> >>>> PR tree-optimization/91532: [SVE] Redundant predicated store in
> >> gcc.target/aarch64/fmla_2.c
> >>>> PR tree-optimization/92161: ICE in vect_get_vec_def_for_stmt_copy, at
> >> tree-vect-stmts.c:1687
> >>>> PR tree-optimization/92162: ICE in vect_create_epilog_for_reduction,
> >> at tree-vect-loop.c:4252
> >>>> PR c++/92015: internal compiler error: in cxx_eval_array_reference, at
> >> cp/constexpr.c:2568
> >>>> PR tree-optimization/92173: ICE in optab_for_tree_code, at
> >> optabs-tree.c:81
> >>>> PR tree-optimization/92173: ICE in optab_for_tree_code, at
> >> optabs-tree.c:81
> >>>> PR fortran/92174: runtime error: index 15 out of bounds for type
> >> 'gfc_expr *[15]
> >>>>
> >>>> Most of these aren't helpful at all, and none of these are good commit
> >>>> summaries.  The PR92173 one actually has identical commit messages
> btw,
> >>>> huh.  Ah, the second one (r277288) has the wrong changelog, but in the
> >>>> actual changelog file as well, not something any tool could fix up (or
> >>>> have we reached the singularity?)
> >>>
> >>> Identical commits are normally from where the same commit is made to
> >>> multiple branches.  It's not uncommon to see this when bugs are fixed.
> >>
> >> This is an actual mistake.  The commits are not identical at all, just
> >> the commit messages are (and the changelog entries, too).  Not something
> >> that happens to ften, but of course I hit it in the first random thing I
> >> pick :-)
> >>
> >>> Ultimately the question here is whether something like the above is
> more
> >>> or less useful than what we have today, which is summary lines of the
> >> form:
> >>>
> >>> <date> <user> <email>
> >>
> >> I already said I would prefer things like
> >>   Patch related to PR323
> >> as the patch subject lines.  No one argues that the current state of
> >> affairs is good.  I argue that replacing this with often wrong and
> >> irrelevant information isn't the best we can do.
> >>
> >
> > How about using the first line that isn't a ChangeLog date/author line,
> > without trying to rewrite/augment it?
> >
> > Jason
> >
>
> It would certainly be another way of doing it.  Sometimes it would
> produce almost the same as an unadulterated PR; sometimes it would
> produce something more meaningful and sometimes it would be pretty
> useless.  It probably would hit more cases than my current script in
> that it wouldn't require the commit to mention a PR in it.
>
> The main problem is that the first line is often incomplete, and much of
> it is also wasted with elements like the full path to a file that is
> quite deep in the tree.  Lets take a quick example (the first I found in
> the dump I have).
>
> 1998-12-17  Vladimir N. Makarov  <vmakarov@cygnus.com>
>         * config/i60/i960.md (extendqihi2): Fix typo (usage ',' instead of
>         ';').
> 1998-12-17  Michael Tiemann  <tiemann@axon.cygnus.com>
>         * i960.md (extend*, zero_extend*): Don't generate rtl that looks
>         like (subreg:SI (reg:SI N) 0), because it's wrong, and it hides
>         optimizations from the combiner.
>
> Firstly, this example misses a blank line between the author and the
> change message itself, which makes distinguishing between this and the
> multiple authors case harder.  Secondly, the entry really spans two
> lines and cutting it off at the end of the first line would be, well a
> bit odd.  We could try to piece things together more, by combining lines
> until we find a sentence end ( \.$ or \.\s\s ), and we could also strip
> off more of the path components to just leave the name of the file
> committed.  For example,
>
> i960.md (extendqihi2): Fix typo (usage ',' instead of ';').
>
> That might work better, but obviously it's harder to handle and thus
> more likely to create erroneous summaries.
>

Yep. I don't think we need to worry about getting optimal one-line
summaries for ancient commits; something reasonably unique should be plenty.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-19 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-04 10:29 Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-04 12:11 ` Arnaud Charlet
2019-11-04 12:43 ` Martin Jambor
2019-11-04 17:43   ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-04 16:04 ` Jeff Law
2019-11-04 16:18   ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-05 15:48   ` Richard Earnshaw
2019-11-07 14:27   ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-11-08 13:43     ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-09  6:01       ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-11-18 15:32         ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-18 15:55           ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-18 16:48             ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-18 17:11               ` Segher Boessenkool
     [not found]                 ` <8c32c288-e9e6-b01b-7911-3f186116da85@gmail.com>
2019-11-18 17:24                   ` Nicholas Krause
2019-11-18 17:26                     ` Nicholas Krause
2019-11-18 17:46                       ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-18 17:49                         ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-18 17:55                         ` Nicholas Krause
2019-11-18 18:05                           ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-18 18:24                             ` Joseph Myers
2019-11-19 11:26                               ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-11-19 11:25                             ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-11-19 11:46                               ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-19 19:32                                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-11-19 19:47                                   ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-19 19:49                                     ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-19 22:14                                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-11-19 22:19                                       ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-21 16:41                                       ` Joseph Myers
2019-11-21 16:52                                         ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-21 18:11                                           ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-11-21 18:09                                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-11-21 19:22                                         ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-19 19:43                                 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-19 22:08                                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-11-18 17:38                 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-18 18:53                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-18 19:14                     ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-18 19:21                     ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-18 19:44                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-18 20:53                         ` Jason Merrill
2019-11-18 21:38                           ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-19 14:57                             ` Jason Merrill [this message]
2019-11-19 16:31                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-19 16:47                                 ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-11-19 16:48                                 ` Jason Merrill
2019-11-19 19:36                                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-11-19 23:29                                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-19 23:44                                       ` Joseph Myers
2019-11-19 23:51                                         ` Nicholas Krause
2019-11-20  8:55                                           ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-11-20 14:50                                         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-11-20 17:30                                         ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-20  8:58                                       ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-11-20 11:27                                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-20 11:30                                           ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-20 11:42                                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-20 14:25                                           ` Jason Merrill
2019-11-20 16:01                                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-19 16:49                                 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-02 10:54                               ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-02 15:35                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-02 16:19                                   ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-02 17:25                                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-02 17:47                                       ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-02 18:00                                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-02 18:11                                           ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-02 18:17                                           ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-02 20:24                                       ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-03  0:48                                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-03  9:44                                           ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-03 10:12                                             ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-02 20:22                                     ` Richard Sandiford
2019-12-04 23:52                                 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-05 10:26                                   ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-05 10:32                                     ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-05 10:36                                       ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-05 10:41                                         ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-05 10:54                                           ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-05 13:18                                         ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-05 17:10                                           ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-05 17:22                                             ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-05 17:45                                               ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-05 20:14                                                 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-05 20:46                                                   ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-05 21:14                                                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-05 21:13                                                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-05 15:33                                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-18 23:43                   ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-19  0:01                     ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-19  9:27                       ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-19 11:05                         ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-19 11:50                         ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-19 11:58                           ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-19 12:23                           ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-19 12:33                             ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-19 12:35                               ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-19 12:42                                 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-19 13:34                                   ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-19 16:00                                     ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-19 16:06                                       ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-19 14:29                           ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-19 15:17                             ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-19 15:20                               ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-19 15:44                                 ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-19 15:47                                   ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-19 15:48                                     ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-19 15:48                                   ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-19 15:49                                 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-19 16:27                                   ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-19 16:28                                     ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-19 16:33                                     ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-19 16:39                                       ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-19 16:43                                         ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-20 20:30                                     ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-20 21:30                                       ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-20 21:41                                         ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-20 22:11                                           ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-20 22:58                                             ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-20 23:23                                               ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-20 23:53                                                 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-19 11:16                       ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-12-19 15:05                         ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-04 16:19 ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-11-04 16:35   ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-04 17:33   ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-04 17:42     ` Joseph Myers
2019-11-04 17:50       ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-05 11:07       ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-11-05 11:28         ` Jason Merrill
2019-11-05 14:12           ` Marek Polacek
2019-11-05 21:40             ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-11-05 14:50           ` David Malcolm
2019-11-05 22:08             ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-05 20:16         ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-11-05 21:01           ` Iain Sandoe
2019-11-05  2:51 ` Kewen.Lin
2019-11-05 21:42   ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)

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