From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15970 invoked by alias); 10 Jan 2020 11:38:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 15958 invoked by uid 89); 10 Jan 2020 11:38:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 spammy=vocal, H*f:sk:64e874d, H*i:sk:64e874d, online X-HELO: mail-lj1-f179.google.com Received: from mail-lj1-f179.google.com (HELO mail-lj1-f179.google.com) (209.85.208.179) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Fri, 10 Jan 2020 11:38:24 +0000 Received: by mail-lj1-f179.google.com with SMTP id o13so1807588ljg.4 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2020 03:38:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=KO4pQVQrTsoIo2fwJ0zzD9o/OBeWkk0XKFBsy667+fc=; b=j4axugnImsAs1GvU5M6+up83TXHuZjnmstbSTIx++4PfjXuo80Hn74jh5hpAMaMnXu txz2bllo2iX7hoFPxMyVLoOOVhNR367d0nh3AiTDETM99s9/IJBjPjHbC1S2GrGB+d8x 06aOJ/sRuWTRY1WoIqULE82huffbkHIrzAY4ZGlGi6lSD9YDzL/FCp/qdtGH22m8ScDQ 8sWzKyPd5eSfUXjRAyyZdREWxoKqG5apBknvH+jX3YIlK8xDFsY4i3o+iRhO07hIX7kX 9vH6w9aBFy7iW1sEIIK82TmzzQWp+yMl6UWOKgiY4cDiseEXwoNxsNp/8O7gpU32gVES HW4w== MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5DCEA32B-3E36-4400-B931-9F4E2A8F3FA5@linaro.org> <155B5BFD-6ECF-4EBF-A38C-D6DD178FB497@linaro.org> <2b6330f2-1a00-ac89-fd3c-4b70e5454f4b@arm.com> <9B71A0F7-CD93-4636-BFC7-1D1DBC040F07@linaro.org> <6EE7BD53-6677-49D2-BCDD-56CD7DA855E9@linaro.org> <88B4DAF3-33C1-445F-8F5A-809D5463D0F9@linaro.org> <20200108221119.GA94728@thyrsus.com> <20200109023804.GR3191@gate.crashing.org> <27A7DEAB-42B9-4A5A-BE89-618F7ED2347E@linaro.org> <64e874d6-a414-3e36-81d4-9d4f5eb6e3c9@arm.com> In-Reply-To: <64e874d6-a414-3e36-81d4-9d4f5eb6e3c9@arm.com> From: Richard Biener Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 11:38:00 -0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Proposal for the transition timetable for the move to GIT To: "Richard Earnshaw (lists)" Cc: Maxim Kuvyrkov , Joseph Myers , "Eric S. Raymond" , GCC Development , Alexandre Oliva , Jeff Law , Mark Wielaard , Jakub Jelinek , Segher Boessenkool Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2020-01/txt/msg00112.txt.bz2 On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 10:49 AM Richard Earnshaw (lists) wrote: > > On 10/01/2020 07:33, Maxim Kuvyrkov wrote: > >> On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:38 AM, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 11:34:32PM +0000, Joseph Myers wrote: > >>> As noted on overseers, once Saturday's DATESTAMP update has run at 00:16 > >>> UTC on Saturday, I intend to add a README.MOVED_TO_GIT file on SVN trunk > >>> and change the SVN hooks to make SVN readonly, then disable gccadmin's > >>> cron jobs that build snapshots and update online documentation until they > >>> are ready to run with the git repository. Once the existing git mirror > >>> has picked up the last changes I'll make that read-only and disable that > >>> cron job as well, and start the conversion process with a view to having > >>> the converted repository in place this weekend (it could either be made > >>> writable as soon as I think it's ready, or left read-only until people > >>> have had time to do any final checks on Monday). Before then, I'll work > >>> on hooks, documentation and maintainer-scripts updates. > >> > >> Where and when and by who was it decided to use this conversion? > > > > Joseph, please point to message on gcc@ mailing list that expresses consensus of GCC community to use reposurgeon conversion. Otherwise, it is not appropriate to substitute one's opinion for community consensus. > > > > I've gone back through this thread (if I've missed, or misrepresented, > anybody who's expressed an opinion I apologize now). > > Segher Boessenkool > "If Joseph and Richard agree a candidate is good, then I will agree as > well. All that can be left is nit-picking, and that is not worth it > anyway:" > > Jeff Law > "When Richard and I spoke we generally agreed that we felt a reposurgeon > conversion, if it could be made to work was the preferred solution, > followed by Maxim's approach and lastly the existing git-svn mirror." > > Richard Earnshaw (lists) > FWIW, I now support using reposurgeon for the final conversion. > > And, of course, I'm taking Joseph's opinion as read :-) > > So I don't see any clear dissent and most folks just want to get this > done. Just to chime in I also just want to get it done (well, I can handle SVN as well :P). I trust Joseph, too, but then from my POV anything not worse than the current mirror works for me. Thanks to Maxim anyway for all the work - without that we'd not switch in 10 other years... Btw, "consensus" among the quiet doesn't usually work and "consensus" among the most vocal isn't really "consensus". I think GCC (and FOSS) works by giving power to those who actually do the work. Doesn't make it easier when there are two, of course ;) Richard.