From: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Law <jeffreyalaw@gmail.com>
Cc: Vineet Gupta <vineetg@rivosinc.com>,
gcc@gcc.gnu.org, Kito Cheng <kito.cheng@sifive.com>,
Philipp Tomsich <philipp.tomsich@vrull.eu>
Subject: Re: Redundant constants in coremark crc8 for RISCV/aarch64 (no-if-conversion)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2022 09:46:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFiYyc2F=rBh4k_qTeSxa2cNTCWzrS+hEi+UzSY2eKkTkHq5PA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8cbea421-5130-6d37-06a2-42ec7daef5cc@gmail.com>
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 5:44 AM Jeff Law via Gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
>
>
> On 10/18/22 20:09, Vineet Gupta wrote:
> >
> > On 10/18/22 16:36, Jeff Law wrote:
> >>>> There isn't a great place in GCC to handle this right now. If the
> >>>> constraints were relaxed in PRE, then we'd have a chance, but
> >>>> getting the cost model right is going to be tough.
> >>>
> >>> It would have been better (for this specific case) if loop unrolling
> >>> was not being done so early. The tree pass cunroll is flattening it
> >>> out and leaving for rest of the all tree/rtl passes to pick up the
> >>> pieces and remove any redundancies, if at all. It obviously needs to
> >>> be early if we are injecting 7x more instructions, but seems like a
> >>> lot to unravel.
> >>
> >> Yup. If that loop gets unrolled, it's going to be a mess. It will
> >> almost certainly make this problem worse as each iteration is going
> >> to have a pair of constants loaded and no good way to remove them.
> >
> > Thats the original problem that I started this thread with. I'd
> > snipped the disassembly as it would have been too much text but
> > basically on RV, Coremark crc8 loop of const 8 iterations gets
> > unrolled including extraneous 8 insns pairs to load the same constant
> > - which is preposterous. Other arches side-step by using if-conversion
> > / cond moves, latter currently WIP in RV International. x86 w/o
> > if-convert seems OK since the const can be encoded in the xor insn.
> >
> > OTOH given that gimple/tree-pass cunroll is doing the culprit loop
> > unrolling and introducing redundant const 8 times, can it ne addressed
> > there somehow.
> > tree_estimate_loop_size() seems to identify constant expression, not
> > just an operand. Can it be taught to identify a "non-trivial const"
> > and hoist/code-move the expression. Sorry just rambling here, most
> > likely non-sense.
On GIMPLE all constants are "simple".
> Oh, cunroll. There might be a distinct flag for complete unrolling.
At -O3 we peel completely, there's no flag to disable that.
> I really expect something like Click's work is the way forward.
> Essentially when you VN the function you'll identify those constants and
> collapse them all down to a single instance. Then the GCM phase will
> kick in and find a place to put the evaluation so that you have one and
> only one.
I'd say postreload gcse would be a place to do that. At least when
there's no available hardreg CSEing likely isn't going to be a win.
> Some of Bodik's work might catch it as well, though implementing his
> ideas is likely a lot more work.
>
>
> Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-19 7:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-14 15:56 Vineet Gupta
2022-10-14 16:54 ` Jeff Law
2022-10-18 21:51 ` Vineet Gupta
2022-10-18 23:36 ` Jeff Law
2022-10-19 2:09 ` Vineet Gupta
2022-10-19 3:42 ` Jeff Law
2022-10-19 7:46 ` Richard Biener [this message]
2022-10-19 13:30 ` Jeff Law
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