From: Richard Guenther <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: Diego Novillo <dnovillo@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Pinski <pinskia@gmail.com>,
Delesley Hutchins <delesley@google.com>, gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
Ollie Wild <aaw@google.com>, Le-Chun Wu <lcwu@google.com>
Subject: Re: Announce - Thread safety annotations no longer supported in GCC
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:50:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFiYyc2yuVOkFtipU=oVYkVaSyGfEM6=pftXLMyz0+AR+FztjQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F90738D.5080302@google.com>
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Diego Novillo <dnovillo@google.com> wrote:
> On 4/19/12 4:14 PM, Andrew Pinski wrote:
>
>> How do you know it is a major effort? Has any issues related to
>> changing Tuple/front-ends AST been raised to the mailing list and
>> asked for help on how to implement these changes?
>
>
> The kind of analysis that Annotalysis needs cannot be catered by GIMPLE, the
> same way that LLVM's bitcode could not cater to it. Both representations
> are geared towards code transformations, not source code analysis. It's not
> an implementation issue, but a design one. It simply does not make sense
> for GIMPLE or LLVM's bitcode to try to be a source code analysis framework.
>
> Annotalysis needs a high-fidelity representation of the original source
> code. Today, that high-fidelity representation is provided exclusively by
> Clang.
>
> Additionally, we are already supporting Clang as a front end to provide
> syntax and semantic analysis. Given that Clang provides a much more
> flexible framework for static analysis, the decision was a relatively simple
> one.
>
> This is not to say that Clang provides everything needed by Annotalysis.
> There is some need to use dataflow information which needs to be
> incorporated in Clang. However, a large fraction of the support required
> was already available in Clang.
Our high-level AST is language specific. In case of C++ its GENERIC plus
some C++ specific tree codes. There is no framework for building a CFG
on top of that (not sure if you need that), but the cgraph is built over that
representation.
Of course non-optimizing ASTs will limit static analysis to TU scope, even
with clang? Or does clang support a "LTO" source AST?
Richard.
>
> Diego.
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Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2012-04-19 14:15 ` Diego Novillo
2012-04-19 15:15 ` Andrew Pinski
2012-04-19 15:44 ` Delesley Hutchins
2012-04-19 16:25 ` Andrew Pinski
2012-04-19 17:30 ` Delesley Hutchins
2012-04-19 19:15 ` Andrew Pinski
2012-04-19 20:20 ` Diego Novillo
2012-04-19 21:10 ` Delesley Hutchins
2012-04-20 8:50 ` Richard Guenther [this message]
2012-04-19 20:55 ` Delesley Hutchins
2012-04-20 2:31 ` Miles Bader
2012-04-20 17:55 ` Delesley Hutchins
2012-04-20 15:40 Manuel López-Ibáñez
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