From: Richard Guenther <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com>
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: libgcc: strange optimization
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:20:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFiYyc3DnnEdaaij0HQyyR00pCcpKh+2Z7-fT8aFHEdVzrFu=g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E3A7E40.1020906@redhat.com>
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 08/04/2011 10:52 AM, Richard Guenther wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> On 08/04/2011 01:19 AM, Hans-Peter Nilsson wrote:
>>>
>>>> To make sure, it'd be nice if someone could perhaps grep an
>>>> entire GNU/Linux-or-other distribution including the kernel for
>>>> uses of asm-declared *local* registers that don't directly feed
>>>> into asms and not being the stack-pointer? Or can we get away
>>>> with just saying that local asm registers haven't had any other
>>>> documented meaning for the last seven years?
>>>
>>> It's the sort of thing that gets done in threaded interpreters,
>>> where you really need to keep a few pointers in registers and
>>> the interpreter itself is a very long function. gcc has always
>>> done a dreadful job of register allocation in such cases.
>>
>> Sure, but what I have seen people use global register variables
>> for this (which means they get taken away from the register allocator).
>
> Not always though, and the x86 has so few registers that using a
> global register variable is very problematic. I suppose you could
> compile the threaded interpreter in a file of its own, but I'm not
> sure that has quite the same semantics as local register variables.
>
> The problem is that people who care about this stuff very much don't
> always read gcc@gcc.gnu.org so won't be heard. But in their own world
> (LISP, Forth) nice features like register variables and labels as
> values have led to gcc being the preferred compiler for this kind of
> work.
Well, the uses won't break with the idea - they would simply work
like if they were not using local register variables.
Richard.
> Andrew.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-04 11:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-01 20:30 Michael Walle
2011-08-01 20:51 ` Georg-Johann Lay
2011-08-01 21:14 ` Michael Walle
2011-08-02 6:47 ` Georg-Johann Lay
2011-08-02 6:29 ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2011-08-01 21:30 ` Richard Henderson
2011-08-02 6:37 ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2011-08-02 8:49 ` Mikael Pettersson
2011-08-02 9:47 ` Richard Guenther
2011-08-02 10:02 ` Georg-Johann Lay
2011-08-02 10:11 ` Richard Guenther
2011-08-02 10:55 ` Michael Walle
2011-08-02 12:06 ` Mikael Pettersson
2011-08-02 12:23 ` Richard Guenther
2011-08-02 12:36 ` Georg-Johann Lay
2011-08-02 12:54 ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2011-08-02 13:09 ` Richard Guenther
2011-08-02 13:16 ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2011-08-03 4:59 ` Miles Bader
2011-08-02 13:23 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-08-02 13:42 ` Richard Guenther
2011-08-02 14:35 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-08-03 9:12 ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-08-03 9:51 ` Georg-Johann Lay
2011-08-03 10:04 ` Richard Guenther
2011-08-03 13:27 ` Michael Matz
2011-08-03 14:02 ` Richard Guenther
2011-08-03 14:55 ` Georg-Johann Lay
2011-08-03 15:05 ` Richard Henderson
2011-08-04 0:20 ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2011-08-04 7:29 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-08-04 13:04 ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2011-08-04 9:51 ` Andrew Haley
2011-08-04 9:52 ` Richard Guenther
2011-08-04 11:11 ` Andrew Haley
2011-08-04 11:20 ` Richard Guenther [this message]
2011-08-04 14:46 ` Andrew Haley
2011-08-06 15:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-08-08 8:06 ` Richard Guenther
2011-08-08 10:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-08-02 16:03 ` Richard Henderson
2011-08-02 20:10 ` Richard Guenther
2011-08-02 17:21 ` Georg-Johann Lay
2011-08-09 16:55 ` Richard Earnshaw
2011-08-09 17:24 ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-08-09 19:48 ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2011-08-10 0:40 ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
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