From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr1-x430.google.com (mail-wr1-x430.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::430]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EA1E385781D for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 08:26:02 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 2EA1E385781D Received: by mail-wr1-x430.google.com with SMTP id x7so15328276wrw.10 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 01:26:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=mkAI5YJ3sQnawo3v06ydHZ13TPZZliRYEotM18PHV7U=; b=ovuWOgLiAYChZNVM8Bue/Hu8wDPDTfNcdn4N+AY4V64cC1vxtvmatMt3YWf2j0ovtl 1F/GzkskDiC1pfUCauXuxI/ij4+9yplO6GYLtUMcpnsel2BMNURjxt5sg2NabHuLV4ST ThKn4Leql52w2R+lxwVG+T+AcIKbpq9aPb1NTwRPn5vTiEi81nS2Wi1Tkzq7un5K9aua XIPEodTLvfDP8amVk/NLxHskZRnq8+PkgUVz3rZeYohE1BZ3L3EknHZ/560plNyvGmRS 5SsqjAWBR7Gq1yCCXmgfcoVuAaiuA3igDucv2W6Ywkhxcn9kZoPnaJVK9XAXzfPWKabd enSw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5301H3IA5UXDnpa3xKRVKP4bb6B1XvStQqFKV9vxjVjbN4ufde+1 sTG3hADif2G1gO5W2ZvBGknhX0hF7RrQNryXUQI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyrgAB9+8b6WHDVUz71kkbIVMQhMm4Q1oYNLkL44YlCD3Odou6qnnAT3X9tWIWWhzVbMAqAXv0ekKlcg+QZloA= X-Received: by 2002:adf:e38f:: with SMTP id e15mr31654562wrm.321.1617092761131; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 01:26:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Jonathan Wakely Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 09:25:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee To: Richard Biener Cc: Nathan Sidwell , GCC Development X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE, LIKELY_SPAM_BODY, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: gcc@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 08:26:04 -0000 On Mon, 29 Mar 2021, 11:13 Richard Biener via Gcc, wrote: > > I do think that the request at hand puts specific pressure on the SC > members that > is unwarranted - you ask for them to respond but they are likely powerless > as to > the actual request. I don't think they are powerless, but it doesn't necessarily matter. In fact were I on the SC I would suggest to all > of my fellow SC > members to resign and re-organize how GCC wants to be represented. That > would > effectively break the communication channel between GCC and the GNU > Project [the FSF] > but at this point it might be the important signal to send. > I've been asking myself what benefit GCC gets from being linked to GNU and all I can think of is the DNS records for gcc.gnu.org. The downside is the link is that a vocal minority in the GNU community make it a toxic and hostile place. Anybody who criticises RMS or questions his authority is treated as an enemy who must be stopped. Ironically, those rabid supporters of the cult of GNU might be what destroys the FSF as a meaningful force for good. I no longer see value in assigning my copyright to the FSF. >