From: Jonathan Wakely <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>
To: Duncan Sands <baldrick@free.fr>
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: adding destroyable objects into Ggc
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:19:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH6eHdR8A2wauJSPsRaQ2okVSAruPS5u5qU656FOc8bFM7dyeg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E9E7F6F.8050601@free.fr>
On 19 October 2011 08:42, Duncan Sands wrote:
> Hi Gabriel,
>
>>> I also agree with you that GCC architecture is messy, and that scares
>>> newscomer a lot.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, but the way we improve it isn't, in my opinion, adding more GC.
>> First we would like to remove complexity, and I do not think we should
>> start by focusing on storage management until we get a clearer idea
>> about lifetime of data structures we manipulate and how they mesh.
>> We might find out (as I suspect) that the builtin GC of C (or C++) is
>> remarkable at the job, provided we have a design that makes the
>> lifetime obvious and take advantage of it.
>
> what you say sounds very sensible to me. If you look at LLVM, most memory
> management is done by using container objects (vectors, maps etc) that
> automatically free memory when they go out of scope. This takes care
> of 99% of memory management in a clean and simple way, which is a great
> situation to be in.
And LLVM seems to be very popular with newcomers to the code base. My
impression is that noone working with the code is intimidated by
properly-managed object lifetimes and the lack of garbage collection.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-10-19 16:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-10-18 16:35 Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 16:43 ` Duncan Sands
2011-10-18 16:53 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 17:11 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-10-18 17:14 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-18 17:20 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 17:36 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-10-18 17:41 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 17:50 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-10-18 17:53 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 18:03 ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-18 18:11 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-10-18 19:41 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 20:52 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-18 19:50 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-18 23:11 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-19 0:49 ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-18 19:46 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-19 6:04 ` Chiheng Xu
2011-10-19 6:08 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-19 6:43 ` Chiheng Xu
2011-10-19 6:12 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-19 6:17 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-19 6:22 ` Chiheng Xu
[not found] ` <20111019080021.4e1acb3687fc8ceacc2fd7a3@starynkevitch.net>
[not found] ` <CAAiZkiB-aXfE8MyY_S6YvecdxgsBnuBHp3JDWx4kirVkQx8w+A@mail.gmail.com>
2011-10-19 7:41 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-19 7:43 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-19 12:14 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-19 13:31 ` Duncan Sands
2011-10-19 22:19 ` Jonathan Wakely [this message]
2011-10-19 15:06 ` David Malcolm
2011-10-20 6:03 ` Lawrence Crowl
2011-10-20 8:29 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20 8:37 ` Marc Glisse
2011-10-20 8:38 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20 11:57 ` Marc Glisse
2011-10-20 12:10 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20 15:34 ` Marc Glisse
2011-10-21 9:03 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-21 12:24 ` Marc Glisse
2011-10-21 12:28 ` Richard Guenther
2011-10-21 23:53 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-22 1:31 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-22 11:20 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-23 13:50 ` Richard Guenther
2011-10-19 15:56 ` Laurynas Biveinis
2011-10-19 16:54 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20 8:52 ` Laurynas Biveinis
2011-10-20 12:27 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20 12:51 ` Andrew Haley
2011-10-20 14:07 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20 13:10 ` Duncan Sands
2011-10-20 14:52 ` Torvald Riegel
2011-10-20 15:14 ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-20 15:26 ` Richard Guenther
2011-10-20 17:23 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20 18:38 ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-18 18:39 ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-18 18:48 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 19:42 ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-18 19:45 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 22:43 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-18 21:24 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
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