From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ej1-x62b.google.com (mail-ej1-x62b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62b]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF827384F6EE for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 10:42:07 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org BF827384F6EE Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gmail.com Received: by mail-ej1-x62b.google.com with SMTP id ud5so15237742ejc.4 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 02:42:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=zWOur/GL33UHzE7YHAAeVesqLg3Jc/NDKT1pZk7dsCM=; b=msApaGozOLWv50QkG1m/NGqzc901YgVNte4Fi4i2Gi2kU2eUzuMExdYo2CBgjf+HO8 l8Q90sUX8ReemzVGjuk3q+zKiyBjFdkUtICsrHenADBWa+pDuP+7tk13B+F7PQGxOrTF mVPF4GtmAkQVHNTFpxbR/go7Znr2iWL3t9wmuGP4SaALPJrroUO4w3mtQndMhibxY/v6 WaTgwpRkR32oeAelyyN/Lddx3lqYMBmQnei1R6yYkmTma+aZrL0SN+zBInmDUh1O0zo+ +XVM+2lwVAdL+QVkgE42j4WnQQBNN+iVvzCTh+mD3HaGX1wrzsEsVkNWyvRzbhkGSqkx eYYA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=zWOur/GL33UHzE7YHAAeVesqLg3Jc/NDKT1pZk7dsCM=; b=WQOnXT7TCDT06IQJSGu43Q5Df8Cm+sFYY+mdw5leIJEVs+vVouIpk+Gfj9KYtBe6by uiTiuAxY4Sj0FiHofMzTOwfsDLN6gK+I3ttnvJ3zpRWFL+pepnhhSkvclr/iW2eRERf8 ByE4GbxXUCNfxkF2Ki8zXvxAIuNG/BsXWZW4OZ/t/e/Edacns3TgLQINEMh3C5E+du9b LgRILst+YdEiorahnrmhYyMXfKgJm5G8C0sCTEQhaI8sHQ3l98U5GiPvT+6KGezPME7J 6y+EcFA/TMYovTDebjNLf7kbkJ8DjG61n1P16Q1un3xF+edJsLynXqo/lty1Jb4PX62k JtTw== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pmwozu3JWvTrMM3EeBsapQjSpdCRh3KkdVUaxdSeFLhcfPHEbc7 k44j1r6XGybhIPzxfFXe0CZkOIZwETHILxRt1TwfEHo6 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf4qXnDf1PG6WBglV5p67VCJQcDcV/GwBjALWzDXIIMJRJ9pROSPd6RdobQhCnhp6pM4MRmrSfQTupaGmwcMmtc= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:cf84:b0:78d:4795:ff1f with SMTP id ux4-20020a170907cf8400b0078d4795ff1fmr37037487ejc.331.1669459326340; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 02:42:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20221126032052.2f32ed2af88309edd76aa262@killthe.net> In-Reply-To: <20221126032052.2f32ed2af88309edd76aa262@killthe.net> From: Jonathan Wakely Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2022 10:41:54 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GNU = Junkware To: Dave Blanchard Cc: "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001d159105ee5d4ad6" X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: --0000000000001d159105ee5d4ad6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Cool story bro On Sat, 26 Nov 2022, 09:20 Dave Blanchard, wrote: > No, I'm not trolling, just venting here for a moment. So sick of garbage > ass, crusty junkware that's always a battle to the death to accomplish > anything. > > I really understand where Liu Hao was coming from yesterday when he was in > here raging against the AT&T assembler. I could sense the bitterness and > disgust in him, the kind that can only come from a lifetime of bitter > disappointment in the status quo. It's like he's just as sick and tired as > I am of broken ass, buggy software. > > GNU GCC/GLIBC IS THE MOST PAINFUL PIECE OF SHIT FUCKING SOFTWARE ON THE > PLANET TO BOOTSTRAP. > > Not even the flaming pile of dogshit that is PYTHON comes close to the > misery and hell awaiting any hapless person who wants to accomplish what > ought to be the Simple And Straightforward Fucking Task of bootstrapping a > cross-compiled GNU gcc/glibc/binutils system. > > I have been working on this project FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR and the pain just > never seems to end. > > I've encountered every shitty, stupid, inane, puzzling, worthless, > completely nonsensical error message that could possibly be generated by a > piece of software, which almost NEVER leads toward figuring out exactly > went wrong, but usually just deeper into the quagmire. > > Seemingly the only way that will ever finally get this junk working is to > just sit there randomly trying different stuff in the hope that it somehow > moves one closer toward getting something that works right. > > /rant > > -- > Dave Blanchard > --0000000000001d159105ee5d4ad6--