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From: Jonathan Wakely <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>
To: Christophe Lyon <christophe.lyon@linaro.org>
Cc: Thomas Schwinge <tschwinge@baylibre.com>,
	Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>,  Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>,
	binutils@sourceware.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org,
	 gdb-patches@sourceware.org, David Malcolm <dmalcolm@redhat.com>,
	arsen@gentoo.org,  Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Help needed with maintainer-mode
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 11:25:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH6eHdRpyu2XZPgfOszWo+N1EgRk09Eoo20pfFxpGhDjf8KK9Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPS5khbYGki+=BFrnL+g5pP3HVHCm76VT0XZ9bs+_zuubLqLjw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 at 10:44, Christophe Lyon via Gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 at 10:36, Thomas Schwinge <tschwinge@baylibre.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > On 2024-03-04T00:30:05+0000, Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org> writes:
> > >> On Fri, Mar 01, 2024 at 05:32:15PM +0100, Christophe Lyon wrote:
> > >>> [...], I read
> > >>> https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/Regenerating_GCC_Configuration
> > >>> which basically says "run autoreconf in every dir where there is a
> > >>> configure script"
> > >>> but this is not exactly what autoregen.py is doing. IIRC it is based
> > >>> on a script from Martin Liska, do you know/remember why it follows a
> > >>> different process?
> > >>
> > >> CCing Sam and Arsen who helped refine the autoregen.py script, who
> > >> might remember more details. We wanted a script that worked for both
> > >> gcc and binutils-gdb. And as far as I know autoreconf simply didn't
> > >> work in all directories. We also needed to skip some directories that
> > >> did contain a configure script, but that were imported (gotools,
> > >> readline, minizip).
> > >
> > > What we really need to do is, for a start, land tschwinge/aoliva's patches [0]
> > > for AC_CONFIG_SUBDIRS.
> >
> > Let me allocate some time this week to get that one completed.
> >
> > > Right now, the current situation is janky and it's nowhere near
> > > idiomatic autotools usage. It is not a comfortable experience
> > > interacting with it even as someone who is familiar and happy with using
> > > autotools otherwise.
> > >
> > > I didn't yet play with maintainer-mode myself but I also didn't see much
> > > point given I knew of more fundamental problems like this.
> > >
> > > [0] https://inbox.sourceware.org/gcc-patches/oril72c4yh.fsf@lxoliva.fsfla.org/
> >
>
> Thanks for the background. I didn't follow that discussion at that time :-)
>
> So... I was confused because I noticed many warnings when doing a simple
> find . -name configure |while read f; do echo $f;d=$(dirname $f) &&
> autoreconf -f $d && echo $d; done
> as suggested by https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/Regenerating_GCC_Configuration
>
> Then I tried with autoregen.py, and saw the same.... and now just
> checked Sourceware's bot logs and saw the same numerous warnings at
> least in GCC (didn't check binutils yet). Looks like this is
> "expected" ....
>
> I started looking at auto-regenerating these files in our CI a couple
> of weeks ago, after we received several "complaints" from contributors
> saying that our precommit CI was useless / bothering since it didn't
> regenerate files, leading to false alarms.
> But now I'm wondering how such contributors regenerate the files
> impacted by their patches before committing, they probably just
> regenerate things in their subdir of interest, not noticing the whole
> picture :-(
>
> As a first step, we can probably use autoregen.py too, and declare
> maintainer-mode broken. However, I do notice that besides the rules
> about regenerating configure/Makefile.in/..., maintainer-mode is also
> used to update some files.
> In gcc:
> fixincludes: fixincl.x
> libffi: doc/version.texi
> libgfortran: some stuff :-)
> libiberty: functions.texi

My recently proposed patch adds the first of those to gcc_update, the
other should be done too.
https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2024-March/647027.html



>
> in binutils/bfd:
> gdb/sim
> bfd/po/SRC-POTFILES.in
> bfd/po/BLD-POTFILES.in
> bfd/bfd-in2.h
> bfd/libbfd.h
> bfd/libcoff.h
> binutils/po/POTFILES.in
> gas/po/POTFILES.in
> opcodes/i386*.h
> gdb/copying.c
> gdb/data-directory/*.xml
> gold/po/POTFILES.in
> gprof/po/POTFILES.in
> gfprofng/doc/version.texi
> ld/po/SRC-POTFILES.in
> ld/po/BLD-POTFILES.in
> ld: ldgram/ldlex... and all emulation sources
> libiberty/functions.texi
> opcodes/po/POTFILES.in
> opcodes/aarch64-{asm,dis,opc}-2.c
> opcodes/ia64 msp430 rl78 rx z8k decoders
>
> How are these files "normally" expected to be updated? Do people just
> manually uncomment the corresponding maintainer lines in the Makefiles
> and update manually?   In particular we hit issues several times with
> files under opcodes, that we don't regenerate currently. Maybe we
> could build binutils in maintainer-mode at -j1 but, well....
>
> README-maintainer-mode in binutils/gdb only mentions a problem with
> 'make distclean' and maintainer mode
> binutils/README-how-to-make-a-release indicates to use
> --enable-maintainer-mode, and the sample 'make' invocations do not
> include any -j flag, is that an indication that only -j1 is supposed
> to work?
> Similarly, the src-release.sh script does not use -j.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Christophe
>
> >
> > Grüße
> >  Thomas

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-04 11:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-29 10:22 Christophe Lyon
2024-02-29 10:41 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2024-02-29 17:36   ` Christophe Lyon
2024-02-29 11:00 ` Mark Wielaard
2024-02-29 17:39   ` Christophe Lyon
2024-03-01 13:08     ` Mark Wielaard
2024-03-01 13:21       ` Christophe Lyon
2024-03-01 16:32       ` Christophe Lyon
2024-03-03 21:15         ` Mark Wielaard
2024-03-04  0:30           ` Sam James
2024-03-04  9:36             ` Thomas Schwinge
2024-03-04 10:42               ` Christophe Lyon
2024-03-04 11:25                 ` Jonathan Wakely [this message]
2024-03-04 14:46                   ` Christophe Lyon
2024-03-04 15:36                     ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2024-03-04 15:40                       ` Richard Earnshaw
2024-03-04 16:42                         ` Christophe Lyon
2024-03-04 17:38                           ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2024-03-04 19:27                             ` Vladimir Mezentsev
2024-03-04 20:04                               ` Jonathan Wakely
2024-03-05 14:26                                 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2024-03-05 15:39                                   ` Richard Earnshaw
2024-03-06 15:04     ` Andrew Carlotti
2024-03-06 17:22       ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2024-02-29 19:49 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-03-01 10:09   ` Christophe Lyon

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