From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lj1-x22c.google.com (mail-lj1-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22c]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 931A2385803F for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 20:52:03 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 931A2385803F Received: by mail-lj1-x22c.google.com with SMTP id c1so20398186ljd.7 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 13:52:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=J9rTRc6KojUdRHllk6DcXFY6LLgKFg9//i3VAhaXtbA=; b=DuaPkb4oyXeEE33xeKek0EoVNyCTNq0VF8N0qVGZpHhCaMhN81lEEWhWTrjF7GfJsF jvquchpLHkrWGJD1Ozqc0vnq3uqx4/RkNSxJ38UznhN35kG46GTwNmjwVKNt3uyZQc1y 8EgItepgBYs5w7mi2yESMgxzrveAMneFgvRwyBZlsuWL+xD4Ee3nayd2L9FMak5YmZA+ e7zH7zhqzSQrPxVF7pgMfWNQ6dx2IJ2sZcbX+vTwdeA3b3E3U5bBlNqJJ+pPIDyMIClh eyMvOBR+BiCrJJpiQ9ef0oMsv6GPWtkmAF7c9XhiPG2XUuKMTTuQxsvag2l4Ftfr0BIu CfGg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530NIW5zntkVB91MYHpT08ULKk3/V8KdmeEbgYQQ0HlFcW9Mpya2 Lssx9+PoMD+b/ISWopixFw/Z5JqdlzTFj+19gR6AAENhDu0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwtA4YZ/LYEY9q57es6BKGeeYZ6Ss7TkiCysd7bAfXbqSpowlBZsNn8mxf7vxqIB5eKe0rUH0ykIw5oO3kgGBY= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:8886:: with SMTP id k6mr622560lji.292.1618519921935; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 13:52:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210414131843.GA4138043@thyrsus.com> <20210414142310.98E0833DD0@vlsi1.gnat.com> <20210414152112.GD4138043@thyrsus.com> <20210415134907.GA51340@thyrsus.com> <96db05d78cb1f829d0b3ce3026ac15a335fffd41.camel@redhat.com> <3e0b8d933eef3eb7f12e86bf6bc92dec6965065d.camel@silogroup.org> In-Reply-To: <3e0b8d933eef3eb7f12e86bf6bc92dec6965065d.camel@silogroup.org> From: Ian Lance Taylor Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 13:51:50 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers To: chris.punches@silogroup.org Cc: GCC Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-18.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIMWL_WL_MED, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gcc@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 20:52:05 -0000 On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 1:26 PM Chris Punches via Gcc wrote: > > Every single proponent of this argument that I have seen so far is > employed by one of the same 5 companies and "really isn't doing it on > behalf of my company I swear". > > Why is it almost exclusively that specific crowd saying it here, then? For better or for worse, since the early '90s the majority of people who do serious work on GCC have been hired by companies that want to do serious work on GCC. After all, it's a win-win: the company gets work done, the GCC programmer gets well paid. The effect is that most of the major GCC contributors work for a relatively small number of companies. There are of course many exceptions, but that is the general rule. Ian