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From: "Frosku" <frosku@frosku.com>
To: "Aaron Gyes" <aaronite@icloud.com>, <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 09:36:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPV19WWEUTS.DU9GPAJQRV9S@klugetown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F9BA7000-554B-451C-828B-36937C67B12E@icloud.com>

On Sat Apr 17, 2021 at 9:27 AM BST, Aaron Gyes via Gcc wrote:
> Give me a break Forsku.
>
> Could you care to share how you feel imposed upon or feel
> disenfranchised by
> this discussion not being sensitive to your culture? How does a code of
> conduct,
> or how would discouraging “micro-aggressions” disrespect your lived
> experiences
> or make it uncomfortable for you to contribute to GCC?

I have no idea what "micro-aggressions" are other than what I read on the
news. It's not a concept that is known outside of a bubble in parts of the
United States. I have never lived in that bubble, it is not a term I have
ever heard face-to-face, therefore I have no idea whether it affects me or
not. I do know that I'd feel pretty uncomfortable signing up to not cause
something when I have no idea what it is.

I feel imposed upon when, as a volunteer, I'm expected to submit not just
my volunteered time but all of my time in every venue to your cultural
norms. This is not normal. Just because some of you are paid very nice
salaries to hack on free software doesn't mean all of us are.

> It’s interesting the unkind reaction Liu Hao received in this very
> thread
> when they encountered the arguments making a false equivalency of these
> proposals
> to their countries’ history. I’m sure he felt not great, being
> forced to either
> defend the CCP or not share their views on the questions of this
> conversation.

I didn't see that, but yes it's unreasonable to expect anyone to defend the
CCP (or any government for that matter) in order to contribute views to an
argument. Everyone should be encouraged to share their views on something
which is important to all of us: the wellbeing of GCC going forwards.

Language like "give me a break", btw, or expecting someone to explain how a
code of conduct which hasn't been written yet 'imposes' on them personally
is also not encouraging.

>>= %frosku = { os => 'gnu+linux', editor => 'emacs', coffee => 1 } =<<

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-17  8:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-14 12:27 Nathan Sidwell
2021-04-14 13:18 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-14 13:28   ` Thomas Koenig
2021-04-14 13:38     ` Frosku
2021-04-14 13:45     ` Frosku
2021-04-14 14:49     ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-14 14:57       ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-14 15:10         ` Frosku
2021-04-14 15:08       ` Thomas Koenig
2021-04-14 15:25       ` Didier Kryn
2021-04-14 17:09       ` Jeff Law
2021-04-14 18:26         ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 14:08   ` Nathan Sidwell
2021-04-14 15:06     ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-14 16:06     ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 16:08     ` Jeff Law
2021-04-14 20:39       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-14 20:49         ` Christopher Jefferson
2021-04-14 20:49         ` Paul Koning
2021-04-14 21:38           ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-15  0:13             ` Paul Koning
2021-04-15  0:40               ` Chris Punches
2021-04-14 22:40           ` Frosku
2021-04-14 23:19             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-14 23:28               ` Frosku
2021-04-14 23:36                 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-14 23:39                   ` Frosku
2021-04-15  0:03                     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-22 22:04             ` Soul Studios
2021-04-15 14:00           ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-15 15:17             ` Iain Sandoe
2021-04-15 15:27               ` Paul Koning
2021-04-15 19:21                 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-04-15 19:45                   ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 20:02                     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-15 20:03                     ` Iain Sandoe
2021-04-15 20:58                       ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 21:24         ` Jeff Law
2021-04-14 21:40           ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-14 21:57           ` Patrick McGehearty
2021-04-15  6:00             ` Thomas Koenig
2021-04-15 16:18               ` Gabriel Ravier
2021-04-14 14:23   ` Richard Kenner
2021-04-14 14:54     ` Nathan Sidwell
2021-04-14 14:57       ` Frosku
2021-04-14 15:18       ` Richard Kenner
2021-04-14 15:21         ` Frosku
2021-04-14 15:21       ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-14 18:27         ` Joseph Myers
2021-04-14 20:02           ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 13:49           ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-15 17:31             ` David Malcolm
2021-04-15 19:05               ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-15 19:48                 ` Gcc as callable libraries (was: removing toxic emailers) Thomas Koenig
2021-04-15 21:19                   ` David Edelsohn
2021-04-15 21:31                   ` David Malcolm
2021-04-15 21:51                     ` David Malcolm
2021-04-15 19:27               ` removing toxic emailers Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 20:26               ` Chris Punches
2021-04-15 20:51                 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-15 21:13                   ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 23:11                   ` Frosku
2021-04-15 23:36                     ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 23:44                       ` Frosku
2021-04-15 23:52                         ` Paul Koning
2021-04-15 23:55                           ` Frosku
2021-04-16  0:00                         ` Joseph Myers
2021-04-15 23:52                       ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-16  0:04                         ` Frosku
2021-04-16  0:16                           ` Joseph Myers
2021-04-16  0:41                             ` Frosku
2021-04-16  1:04                             ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-16  0:48                         ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17  9:09                     ` Gerald Pfeifer
2021-04-17 11:56                       ` Giacomo Tesio
2021-04-17 14:41                         ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17 18:11                         ` David Brown
2021-04-18  1:39                           ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-18 13:10                             ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-18 14:51                               ` David Malcolm
2021-04-18 15:59                                 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-18 18:24                                 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-04-18 19:13                                   ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-18 20:10                                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-04-19  0:54                                     ` Frosku
2021-04-18 19:06                                 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-18 20:22                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-04-19  1:10                                     ` Frosku
2021-04-19  2:42                                       ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-19  6:29                                       ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-19  6:31                                         ` Frosku
2021-04-19 15:06                                         ` Thomas Rodgers
2021-04-19 16:57                                           ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-20  3:47                                           ` Frosku
2021-04-20  5:06                                             ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-20  7:53                                             ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-20 14:03                                               ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-20 14:15                                                 ` Richard Kenner
2021-04-20 14:22                                                   ` David Brown
2021-04-20 14:30                                                     ` Richard Kenner
2021-04-18 11:12                           ` identifying toxic emailers (was: removing toxic emailers) Giacomo Tesio
2021-04-18 12:42                             ` Richard Kenner
2021-04-18 13:23                               ` Giacomo Tesio
2021-04-17 13:57                       ` removing toxic emailers Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 21:13                 ` David Malcolm
2021-04-15 23:21                   ` JeanHeyd Meneide
2021-04-15 22:09                 ` Christopher Jefferson
2021-04-15 22:40                 ` Jeff Law
2021-04-15 23:28               ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-16  0:20                 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-16  2:47                 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-16  3:02                   ` Frosku
2021-04-16  3:19                     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-16  4:07                       ` Frosku
2021-04-16 16:28                         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-16 23:15                           ` Frosku
2021-04-17  0:43                             ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17  4:05                             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-17  4:08                               ` Frosku
2021-04-17  5:04                                 ` Andrew Pinski
2021-04-17  9:08                                   ` Giacomo Tesio
2021-04-17  9:41                                     ` Frosku
2021-04-17 15:07                                       ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17  5:35                                 ` Jeff Law
     [not found]                                   ` <e324569ac358127174e1ba08337166c4d9494883.camel@silogroup.org>
2021-04-17  7:53                                     ` Frosku
2021-04-17  8:27                                       ` Aaron Gyes
2021-04-17  8:36                                         ` Frosku [this message]
2021-04-17  9:04                                           ` Aaron Gyes
2021-04-17  9:08                                             ` Aaron Gyes
2021-04-17  9:29                                               ` Frosku
2021-04-17  9:25                                             ` Frosku
2021-04-17 14:21                                               ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17 12:41                                         ` Liu Hao
2021-04-17 15:16                                         ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17  9:29                             ` Giacomo Tesio
2021-04-17  9:36                               ` Frosku
2021-04-16  8:54                       ` Iain Sandoe
2021-04-16 10:02                         ` Thomas Koenig
     [not found]                         ` <CAJWNc-7q+t1njvEow=a6QPD4uWA7htEZn=koRBNd3ziO4y8A-g@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                           ` <CAJWNc-6rDMvK12h8PcjrTZO5E-c4qNsh0SHQ0+kmGV71Jis67Q@mail.gmail.com>
2021-04-16 14:42                             ` Iain Sandoe
2021-04-16 15:14                               ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-16 17:31                         ` NightStrike
2021-04-16  4:09                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-16  9:39                     ` Kalamatee
2021-04-16  9:58                       ` Frosku
2021-04-16 16:17                     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-14 17:32   ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 16:52 ` Martin Jambor
2021-04-14 18:19   ` Nathan Sidwell
2021-04-14 18:30     ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 18:32     ` Paul Koning
2021-04-14 20:12       ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15  0:10     ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15  9:18       ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-15 14:25         ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 10:20       ` Aaron Gyes
2021-04-15 14:31         ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 23:09 Adrian
2021-04-15  0:18 ` Soul Studios
2021-04-15 14:40 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-15 22:49   ` Frosku

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