From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from sender4-op-o18.zoho.com (sender4-op-o18.zoho.com [136.143.188.18]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11F853894C09 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 09:30:07 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 11F853894C09 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=frosku.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=frosku@frosku.com ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1618651803; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=iLP7hcTn8A1RqxGSRNdgwBOqtMzAtj70vw+Birz6yFHqZJQFLV3AEM/40jhUa1zGwu/tKw0WYq08//BhH7p+K6L50EE/j6iT9YwFq48bQ0cRZ71Qihoh59GZHY8UJaCvP5H2l7YXY8IK1wQxw5yFu3IaFpwa4dqPhlQxQ/JCXBI= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1618651803; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:To; bh=HgZu5ckXWHWw34fd80e2LrWm4kkwSGVso430pDbwkSc=; b=GJNfyL0N33ehYGcFnl/fbN1TCxHtFtOE/dpeRe6+nGuSYkLeTmG7B2j6XK3+u4ghkpnisL+Nr3PZX32V2u6KQ5Bwq7dpg5WY5gpzP8rHsgKTZm31vgkfrAHkOHX/mGfBm+UubzbGZu3L0833k1CqctAVLPt6Gz61GznvZq0lx6w= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; dkim=pass header.i=frosku.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=frosku@frosku.com; dmarc=pass header.from= header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1618651803; s=zoho; d=frosku.com; i=frosku@frosku.com; h=Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Cc:Subject:From:To:References:In-Reply-To; bh=HgZu5ckXWHWw34fd80e2LrWm4kkwSGVso430pDbwkSc=; b=CijJ6C91FCzAOXuJGFnzt4evPOSxLwNvsi9o2QK0q53YTrXzYFG9vpucSG1epKI3 TMpg05SAi5JhTpaN/nP5K89fFEZCP5yESrB6QUkjw6jfCUsTNM6dl0VqNTSafm47OCM mBJkSUebCwsfzABgj8sMZMIme+sE0qYiCdU+mcP4= Received: from localhost (90.210.249.179 [90.210.249.179]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1618651801606308.6573076953614; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 02:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 10:29:59 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers From: "Frosku" To: "Aaron Gyes" , References: <20210414131843.GA4138043@thyrsus.com> <20210414142310.98E0833DD0@vlsi1.gnat.com> <20210414152112.GD4138043@thyrsus.com> <20210415134907.GA51340@thyrsus.com> <96db05d78cb1f829d0b3ce3026ac15a335fffd41.camel@redhat.com> <20210415232851.GA67555@thyrsus.com> <96e9ac78-02d1-5963-00e8-374e8491a0c0@gmail.com> <280FF748-4902-4180-8CB6-B1EB02A1C22B@icloud.com> In-Reply-To: X-ZohoMailClient: External X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3488.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gcc@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 09:30:18 -0000 On Sat Apr 17, 2021 at 10:08 AM BST, Aaron Gyes via Gcc wrote: > > I feel imposed upon when, as a volunteer, I'm expected to submit not ju= st > > my volunteered time but all of my time in every venue to your cultural > > norms. > > Can you not imagine=E2=80=A6 some people have already felt that way for q= uite > some > time, and became excluded? That it is not a hypothetical for them? > > Aaron Absolutely, and we should find ways to re-include them without swapping their exclusion for the exclusion of other vulnerable people. >>=3D %frosku =3D { os =3D> 'gnu+linux', editor =3D> 'emacs', coffee =3D> 1= } =3D<<