From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from sender4-op-o18.zoho.com (sender4-op-o18.zoho.com [136.143.188.18]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75D0F3951C9F for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 06:32:07 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 75D0F3951C9F Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=frosku.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=frosku@frosku.com ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1618813916; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=h5+cytXcJ4aj2jol+ei+pL8s4xTiVsB26qFSPasTuyd9NlPpxhEH9OsDchTrGGHh4Zrsb2JdCgqrYJTe+CKdhas1Abh9HGuPRPt41k4YBxaxXSKkhPHGnsr57sqcracOIiGR3RZpO6IO6Qb+4se0MXkcUzGWqmxgzw1vZpsFu84= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1618813916; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:To; bh=0zd+WjVl/SsgvAcGgxFbWiIkVZeHQJ1hIUXDHlnySLo=; b=ZFxGigFuemgYRScFfqWTvWZ5ar+KOb/UBzySLisiIDjKbGHLJgAbbnqbhLrvHLYCfsOHI4qpyqpjBD38Sq+2Y3KfbsuW6Y+C7sE5cKz4lnKVyGz8FQ+81+8WmBuRIYGPeapFc6ZocsRUEzv7T9NrCu0q67khTG21Eoky4uoTKA8= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; dkim=pass header.i=frosku.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=frosku@frosku.com; dmarc=pass header.from= header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1618813916; s=zoho; d=frosku.com; i=frosku@frosku.com; h=Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:To:Cc:Subject:From:References:In-Reply-To; bh=0zd+WjVl/SsgvAcGgxFbWiIkVZeHQJ1hIUXDHlnySLo=; b=QZHoeRxAO1X2ucz1JzzzSxyjpGWhx2i1JcGsufIwKSGonIyF6YUxZVi46MS5G3+r 1OOzxnVvejDAn17EzYvocjU7ztELaCD4u+469s7A7c6tXbqERufx3VfF7Axu7LqWlsj 19rpcq9bqFOfMY9zY/Wp2yLDorzG5qWIGW6JAqlI= Received: from localhost (90.210.249.179 [90.210.249.179]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1618813914537382.91251880213497; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 23:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 07:31:51 +0100 Message-Id: To: "Jonathan Wakely" Cc: "Alexandre Oliva" , "Jonathan Wakely via Gcc" Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers From: "Frosku" References: <20210415134907.GA51340@thyrsus.com> <96db05d78cb1f829d0b3ce3026ac15a335fffd41.camel@redhat.com> <3e0b8d933eef3eb7f12e86bf6bc92dec6965065d.camel@silogroup.org> <40f0e05b-3156-a649-b636-c90b8b8e0f8@pfeifer.com> <4A7DE074-9600-4513-A05C-566926D447BE@tesio.it> <535f1dcf-2258-c817-cf72-5c49dc9e5823@hesbynett.no> <20210418131052.GB320802@thyrsus.com> <92c014fc39022ea03c6c801bb76ab39674e8a6fb.camel@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: X-ZohoMailClient: External X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3486.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, LOTS_OF_MONEY, MONEY_NOHTML, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gcc@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 06:32:09 -0000 On Mon Apr 19, 2021 at 7:29 AM BST, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On Mon, 19 Apr 2021, 02:41 Frosku, wrote: > > > On Sun Apr 18, 2021 at 9:22 PM BST, Alexandre Oliva via Gcc wrote: > > > That's why it's best to dissent politely, lest they incorrectly concl= ude > > > their opinions are consensual, or majoritary, just because they've > > > driven dissenters into silence. > > > > The problem is, Alex, that the trolls mostly haven't been on the dissen= ting > > side. All of the childish namecalling -- "jerks", "trolls", "crazies" -= - > > and the insinuations that our voices aren't worth listening to because = we > > don't get paid $250,000 a year by Google to contribute to GCC all day a= re > > coming from the pro-forking side. > > > > Google doesn't pay anybody to work on GCC all day. You know nothing > about > GCC or the "problems" you're complaining about. Your input to this > conversation is not constructive. > > > > > Once upon a time, free software developers understood that users' opini= ons > > were as valid as contributor's opinions. > > > > That depends on the user. Thanks for perfectly illustrating my point. I don't agree with you so my op= inion isn't valid and I'm stupid/clueless/etc. >>=3D %frosku =3D { os =3D> 'gnu+linux', editor =3D> 'emacs', coffee =3D> 1= } =3D<<