From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21007 invoked by alias); 5 Dec 2003 17:26:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 20988 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2003 17:26:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fencepost.gnu.org) (199.232.76.164) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2003 17:26:54 -0000 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.24) id 1ASJio-0005K5-F8; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:26:30 -0500 From: Richard Stallman To: =?UTF-8?B?QnJhbmtvIMSMaWJlag==?= CC: zack@codesourcery.com, eggert@CS.UCLA.EDU, bje@wasabisystems.com, gcc@gcc.gnu.org, binutils@sources.redhat.com, gdb@sources.redhat.com In-reply-to: <3FCEE9B1.3050703@xbc.nu> (message from =?UTF-8?B?QnJhbmtvIMSMaWJlag==?= on Thu, 04 Dec 2003 09:00:49 +0100) Subject: Re: flag day for Solaris portions of config.{guess,sub} Reply-to: rms@gnu.org References: <8765hf4c8z.fsf@wasabisystems.com> <87wu9mt79r.fsf@egil.codesourcery.com> <871xrs5b9j.fsf@penguin.cs.ucla.edu> <87znegqb31.fsf@codesourcery.com> <87brqsw9d9.fsf@penguin.cs.ucla.edu> <871xroqlaf.fsf@egil.codesourcery.com> <87n0aaj4cl.fsf@penguin.cs.ucla.edu> <87wu9esxu6.fsf@egil.codesourcery.com> <87ad69rf42.fsf@egil.codesourcery.com> <3FCEE9B1.3050703@xbc.nu> Message-Id: Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:27:00 -0000 X-SW-Source: 2003-12/txt/msg00399.txt.bz2 >The point is that most programs nowadays use Autoconf, so other uses are >few. > > Sorry to barge in again, but config.guess is used by lots of things besides programs that use Autoconf; e.g., various sysadmin scripts, testing and compilation frameworks, etc. etc., where Autoconf is inappropriate but config.guess is immensely useful. Are you talking about configure scripts that don't use Autoconf? Or something else entirely? Config.guess is not just a utility for Autoconf; We are miscommunicating; you're arguing against something that is not what I said. config.guess is not "a utility for Autoconf". It's a utility for configure scripts. When we developed the configure spec, there was no such thing as Autoconf. When Autoconf was developed, it made it possible to write configure scripts so that they don't need to care about the name of the system. So config.guess, and configuration names, are less important than they were in the past. Some programs such as GDB still need to check them, but most new programs rely on Autoconf for the whole job. At least I think that's the case for configure scripts. Are you saying that config.guess is widely used outside of configure scripts?